Rumor alert:
Gate agent from SAT told me the other day that they were told to rebid the fall schedule. He says after the summer Delta is cutting many flights due to fuel price. This guy is a gate supervisor so I would assume he's in the know.

 

You can always access DALPA's LM-2, it's publicly available to get the cash numbers.

But strictly looking at the policy manual, its states that vacation loss do to ALPA work will be covered in accordance with ALPA's Administrative manual. I looked it up, it's covered in section 060-O (pg63).

It goes into great detail on how the vacation bank works. Without pasting the entire section, it essentially gives them back the same number of days that they lost due to ALPA work. Lose 3 days of vacation, get 3 back. Kind of messes up your vacation plans though when it breaks your vacation up. No reimbursement for that. The cash buy back is covered in the same manner that the volunteers contract stipulates.

Getting late for me, early get up tomorrow, but I assume GS and WS are covered in the same manner as any other pilot, in accordance with our contract. Work on your days off, get more money. Of course the full time guys don't get nearly as many days off as the rest of us. Call your rep and ask him how his WS/GS are paid.

 

[QUOTE=captainv;974951]By blaming JC Lawson, you give him too much credit. It was company policy that new hires resign their seniority. Management chose not to change it and would never have considered it unless we opened up the contract and gave something up.

However, JC saw an opportunity and chose to exploit it, seeking more scope relief or a flow-through or whatever. When he was rebuffed, he chose to write the letter and twist the knife a bit more, when he could've simply written a letter of support, even though he was powerless to change it.

There's plenty to loathe about JC, especially his stance on this issue, but never forget it was management that ultimately decided not to help the DAL furloughs. Many of us line pilots vehemently disagreed.[/QUOT



CaptainV,

First off - I agree with almost everything you post above, which appears to make the then COMAIR MEC policy look even more foolish.

Assuming what you say above is 100% true then it seems to make even less sense that the COMAIR MEC did not go out of their way to help the furloughed DAL Pilots. Perhaps something like this:

"We, the MEC of COMAIR fully support the hiring of DAL Pilots with their DAL seniority numbers."

If it was COMAIR, and by default DAL policy, then JC and the MEC had nothing to lose by supporting the DAL Pilots- Why not make a statement in support of the DAL Pilots? Who by the way ponied up $$$ in support of the COMAIR Pilots during the strike and ensured there was no struck work flown by mainline.

But you are right, JC and the MEC choose to exploit it instead of supporting the DAL Pilots, which by the way ASA, also wholly owned, managed to do quite well.

Bottom Line:

ASA MEC and Pilots supported furloughed DAL pilots.

COMAIR MEC and Pilots - tried to take advantage of DAL Pilots for their own gain.

Scoop

 

[QUOTE=Scoop;975326]Agree with your characterization of how the different MEC's approached helping a fellow pilot out. Bottomline for the CMR guys is JC's stunt didn't work, CMR is now going from 113 aircraft to 49 by the end of 2012 and from what I can see, Delt has hired far more ASA pilots than CMR pilots lately. Call it Karma.

 

I wouldn't doubt it, would you?

We haven't hit hurricane hysteria yet either and there is always something exploding in Houston to send it skyrocketing and the Muslim Brotherhood probably has more activities planned.

We've got a long way to go and the problem is they'll put the bulls-eye right on our DC9s. But 1 DC9 = 2 CRJ200s+. Start flying more point-to-point-to-hub stuff like the good ole days and LEAVE OUR 9's ALONE!
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As to CMR, no love lost there, however, when it comes to hiring I hope they take DOH into consideration and look at the junior folks like say a Boomer. It's kind of like looking at a CAL pilot and going "SCAB!" Well, that was a pretty narrow window in the 1980s when super scabs existed and you might question why anyone would've gone there post that time period but by the time you get to the mid 90s, not really the same thing. I say that because when I was hired at Coex you didn't really know anything about unions or union history. You were busy flying your butt off and teaching the Shiznit's and Beer's of the world how to fly while picking their nose or to open the air vents prior to "lettin' one go." Of course once you get to the majors and fly the 757 with its fart shield you don't need that type of training.

But again, no love lost for that airline and whoever participated, supported or quietly supported the Delta furlough events.

 

You know with our propensity to purchase used, I'm curious as to why we buy new jets when we could be grabbing Dash 8-300's or ATR 42s to replace 50 seat jets. Sure they're props but hey, at $109/bb and climbing a few vacation minded passenger whining should be of no concern.



I mean for crying out loud, UsAir is still flying those suckers and one of Piedmont's Dash 8s sets the world record for the airliner with the highest number of cycles every time it takes off.

 

Should we just get it over with and merge the L&G thread with the DPA thread?

 

WHOA WHOA WHOA now.

How would this merger go down? DOP or relative post? And what am I going to get for it?

 

I propose a fence around alfaromeo and "super premium" status for Carl!

 

Now, there's a fine looking machine.....