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johnso29 04-19-2009 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 597945)
I agree, most do not wear them. I personally use a Telex.


Anyone know if that was carried over to the joint contract? I prefer the Telex 750. If I eventually get MD to a DAL S aircraft is my cheap butt going to have to buy a Telex if that's what I want to use? :D

acl65pilot 04-19-2009 06:20 PM

I have never seen a mandatory headset. To the best of my knowledge we got DC's and there are required to be as many headsets are there are seats in the flight deck. I do not believe that Telex was carried over in the JPWA.

Now the 750 is nice but if you fly the 73N the 850 is better as it is quite noisy.

johnso29 04-19-2009 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 597990)
I have never seen a mandatory headset. To the best of my knowledge we got DC's and there are required to be as many headsets are there are seats in the flight deck. I do not believe that Telex was carried over in the JPWA.

Now the 750 is nice but if you fly the 73N the 850 is better as it is quite noisy.


Yeah, they work well in the DC9 & A320. I guess I'll have to break down & buy some eventually.

1234 04-19-2009 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 597932)
Correct, and do not forget that your headset needs to be on from the start of the Before Start Checklist to the completion of the Shutdown Checklist. All for legal reasons of course.

I get the whole legal reasons, but if that is the case, then shouldn't the intercom be one the entire time also. What good is it to read a checklist without the intercom on?

Next question, rhetorical it appears, is if the philosophy is a big bubble theory, then why is everything caveated with liability excuses. If we are so concerned about the liability, then limit the every move that employees make so that the company is really protected. On a similar note, we are in the business of transporting goods and people therefore the exposure to liability is limited at best regarding procedures and how we operate.

KC10 FATboy 04-19-2009 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 597999)
I get the whole legal reasons, but if that is the case, then shouldn't the intercom be one the entire time also. What good is it to read a checklist without the intercom on?

Because the voice recorder also records the boom mic. I don't think you have to be in intercomm.

Schwartz 04-19-2009 08:13 PM

Almost all of them are wired hot to the CVR whether the intercom is on or not.

NuGuy 04-19-2009 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 597986)
Anyone know if that was carried over to the joint contract? I prefer the Telex 750. If I eventually get MD to a DAL S aircraft is my cheap butt going to have to buy a Telex if that's what I want to use? :D

Maybe after SOC, they'll either:

1) Go to the fNWA way, and just put 750s in all the cockpits

or

2) Get rid of the 750s on all the fNWA aircraft, and then have a huge fire sale on the things...you know they keep quite a few in inventory, too (brand new). They could just sell'em. I'd buy one.

Nu

acl65pilot 04-20-2009 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 597999)
I get the whole legal reasons, but if that is the case, then shouldn't the intercom be one the entire time also. What good is it to read a checklist without the intercom on?

Next question, rhetorical it appears, is if the philosophy is a big bubble theory, then why is everything caveated with liability excuses. If we are so concerned about the liability, then limit the every move that employees make so that the company is really protected. On a similar note, we are in the business of transporting goods and people therefore the exposure to liability is limited at best regarding procedures and how we operate.

The legal part is so that every word is legible. Having the boom mic on give the CVR the best possible chance for your words to the checklist to be picked up and legible. It does not need to be in IC. Just on.

Free Bird 04-20-2009 05:11 AM

Intercoms would be nice, not sure why Delta doesn't use them? The 737-200's were just brutal.

The "quiet" 88's are starting to get noisy as well.

acl65pilot 04-20-2009 05:19 AM

From talking to some of the old hats we do not use them, because we never have. IE the L15 did not need it, the 88 and 757 do not need it, the 72 did not need it, etc, so we do not use it.


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