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BigGuns 04-22-2009 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 599450)
Not to contradict but a friend is up in MSP for CQ and the ugly F word reared its head...... Basically he was told that we were staffed for summer but come fall/winter we were fat and they are considering furloughs. I hope this turns out to be false but it came from pretty high within the food chain.

This is copied from the NE CP Newsletter posted on the CPSC (Chief Pilot Support Center) page of Detla Net dated 3/30/09...

I heard furloughs are coming?



If you work for USAir or United, I would be concerned. We currently do not have enough pilots to fly all the block hours that networks wants us to fly this summer. The 2010 flying program is currently scheduled to be an increase of approximately 1% above the 2009 block hour program.

Loosely translated that means that we will not have enough pilots for 2010 either. There have not been any decisions made at this time but rest assured that the costs of furloughs are both economic and emotional. We will not furlough unless there are compelling reasons like a full blown depression of the world’s economy–force majure level stuff. It would take 18-24 months worth of economic savings to justify furloughing someone on a financial basis – even more on an emotional justification. For now, no one sees that level of cuts coming in flight operations. Expect SILs in international categories and Personal Leaves of Absences to be granted come this fall.





DAL4EVER 04-22-2009 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 599556)
Those are Longhorn Cheerleaders ;) I didnt take those but i do have access to Season tickets each year for every UT home football game and guess where the seats are? (right in front of the cheerleaders ;)) so i'm "familiar" with them :D

You mean 'familiar' in the biblical sense, Super? I'm just sayin'!

acl65pilot 04-22-2009 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 599580)
This is copied from the NE CP Newsletter posted on the CPSC (Chief Pilot Support Center) page of Detla Net dated 3/30/09...

I heard furloughs are coming?



If you work for USAir or United, I would be concerned. We currently do not have enough pilots to fly all the block hours that networks wants us to fly this summer. The 2010 flying program is currently scheduled to be an increase of approximately 1% above the 2009 block hour program.

Loosely translated that means that we will not have enough pilots for 2010 either. There have not been any decisions made at this time but rest assured that the costs of furloughs are both economic and emotional. We will not furlough unless there are compelling reasons like a full blown depression of the world’s economy–force majure level stuff. It would take 18-24 months worth of economic savings to justify furloughing someone on a financial basis – even more on an emotional justification. For now, no one sees that level of cuts coming in flight operations. Expect SILs in international categories and Personal Leaves of Absences to be granted come this fall.






Sounds spot on.
LOA's would be nice for a few, but they may be choosy on who gets em and the duration of them.

acl65pilot 04-22-2009 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 599566)
LOL. Actually, no, lots of red eyes and just about everything goes to JFK. It was pretty good about a year ago. I think the SLC and CVG guys are ripping off all of the good trips. :eek:


I agree, they are getting the better trips.

capncrunch 04-22-2009 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 599436)
One thing I found interesting is that they thought the APA process would take care of the 742 stuff prior to SOC. Not sure if this will be true, but that is what they are thinking. ( If I were a betting man, I would bet this might change. The only way I see this holding true is if we cannot get all of the 757 guys in to the sims by Dec 2009, and SOC is delayed to April 2010.)


Are you saying that the ANC base may get their displacements after SOC?

acl65pilot 04-22-2009 03:28 PM

If they fly until Dec I personally would think so. They are saying it will be covered under your APA system prior to SOC.

capncrunch 04-22-2009 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 599609)
If they fly until Dec I personally would think so. They are saying it will be covered under your APA system prior to SOC.

I went to the meeting yesterday in ANC and that is what we were told. It would be nice if by some grace we were able to bid the whole system rather than just the North. The problem a lot of ANC guys are running into is that they will be displaced into a North base and when they bid the whole system a month later they will lose their manditory displacement moving package. Moving from ANC is very expensive and that would be a huge loss. It also puts us into a position that no other pilot in the system would have is that we would have to stay in the displaced base for 24 months(otherwise we'll have to pay the moving costs back to the company) and we will not be able to bid the whole system for 2 years.

acl65pilot 04-22-2009 03:39 PM

Yuck.

That stinks. I know some would be happy about it. I am guessing that they will offer perps for some of it.

johnso29 04-22-2009 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 599602)
Sounds spot on.
LOA's would be nice for a few, but they may be choosy on who gets em and the duration of them.


Are the SIL's really 55 hours of pay for zero flying? Do they pay for medical, or do I? Do they typically go senior?

capncrunch 04-22-2009 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 599619)
Yuck.

That stinks. I know some would be happy about it. I am guessing that they will offer perps for some of it.

Yep, many would be happy. They are looking into keeping the bidding system the same as mentioned above but letting the moving costs transfer with the 2nd bid. That way we don't have to suck up the moving costs and the Delta S boys don't receive our displacements. Win win.

SIDE NOTE:
A number of the captains said that they are not all that interested in another training event and they would jump ship if Delta puts some cash on the table. That would be great for everyone.


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