I stumbled on this about 20 minutes in and it totally killed my chances at "adequate rest". I've studied the Civil War ad nauseum and this was one of the most thorough dissections of the battle I have seen. Lots of stuff in there I didnt know.

There's no contradiction here Bar. I'm simply telling you the exact facts on the ground here. Not the way I wish them to be, not the way I'm accepting things, just the way they are. Nothing more. You keep trying to proffer a fix of merging without understanding that unions don't control that.

That's probably true. But almost 6,000 posts on the DPA thread should show you that most of the biggest complaints are the fact that our own union doesn't agree with reversing ANY of its internal policies. I don't like that, while you DEFEND ALPA as something that needs to be fixed from within.

All true.

Bar you need to understand the 1974 court case that set the precedent of Scope being unique in our contracts. Unique in that we are not legally allowed to strike over it. Unique in that if we don't agree to change it, management can do nothing about it except take it off the table or the NMB will do it for them. Do you understand this? I didn't until a month ago and I've done union work on and off for decades. It is critically important that you understand this if you don't.

It has nothing to do with heart placement or how good of folks we are. It only has to do with the actual facts on the ground. You are not the only one who sees storm clouds. Most all of us do. But every one of your proposed fixes are either illegal or impossible.

My plan is not move one micro-millimeter on Scope in our upcoming Section 6. Management will have no legal choice but to take it off the table, or the NMB will do it for them. Then we pilots watch the company's 50-76 seat bonanza turn into a nightmare as these aircraft become more and more economically untenable. Then we can grow Delta organically. Everything in my plan is both legal and easily achieved.

What say you?

Carl

Weren't the mid-month and end-of-month paychecks supposed to be adjusted to be about equal? I'm not breaking my reserve guarantee and my paychecks continue be 32% at the end of the month and 68% at the middle of the month. Did you have to go to ESS to make a change or was it supposed to happen automatically?

That's starts with the June 30th check. Half of guarantee on the 30th, then the other half plus overs and per diem on the 15th. :)

The Trim Tab says it's effective the June 30th Paycheck. It will be half of guarantee (35 hours)

How would that strategy/legal precedent work if we decided to make some degree of scope reversal (as in rolling back what can be outsourced)? Would that then "open" section 1 thus "allowing" management to put their fantasy out there, or would we still be able to effectively freeze it at current levels any time we wanted (provided we weren't stupid enough to allow more in exchange for a meaningless temporary pay raise)?

IOW, would we have to accept a freeze up front in order to get the NMB to lock it out, or can we try to roll it back some without any danger of it getting worse (our own stupidity/shortsighted greed notwithstanding)?

Be careful. FTB is an Auburn grad. His parties are as likely to involve farm animals as hookers and fire trucks.:D

We could open Section 1 wanting to roll it back. If management refused to budge, we cannot strike over it and would be stuck with it where it is. Management could open it wanting more outsourcing. If we refused to budge, management would HAVE to pull it off the table and be stuck with our current Section 1.

The only possibility of worsening Scope is if DALPA brings us that contract (and they will), and we vote for it. The only other possibility is if DALPA does it unilaterally via an LOA without MEMRAT...which is totally within our union's rules to do.

Carl

Two's in. :)