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Old 06-17-2011 | 10:11 AM
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Old 06-17-2011 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Then what's the purpose of the iPAds again? If I can't use it to fly an approach, I don't see the point in carrying a company "computer" that has the pubs that are already on board in paper form to begin with..
Thats not a correct statement.

The iPad is in fact FAA approved at some operators instead of paper charts, so long as there are 2 iPads in the cockpit...
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Jeppesen even did rapid decompression tests from 51,000 ft on the iPad
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Operators that desire to use the iPad or any other suitable tablet computing device as a substitute for paper products, including aeronautical information such as approach plates, terminal procedures, and airport diagrams, must show compliance with the guidance in FSIMS and/or AC 120-76A. Each authorization process is considered unique, because of differences in each operator’s aircraft types, training programs, operational procedures, intended function of the EFB, etc.
Alaska is the one with the "iPad lite" approach where the iPad cant be used below 10,000 ft...

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Old 06-17-2011 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MDPilot
You USED to be able to get a short call credit for this on your first day of reserve. That went away when we went from 8 to 6 short calls /month. No net gain, IMO.
Thx. I was pretty sure that used to happen. Here's another one for you. I believe that we can move X days on our schedule as long as the manning is there...correct? If so, how do we do this. Been awhile since I was on reserve and it appears this will now be the norm!
Old 06-17-2011 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhino Driver
Thx. I was pretty sure that used to happen. Here's another one for you. I believe that we can move X days on our schedule as long as the manning is there...correct? If so, how do we do this. Been awhile since I was on reserve and it appears this will now be the norm!
On icrew, Schedules, PCS, leave request, move reserve off days. I think it runs about 6 times a day, I would have to look to be sure. If you are looking to move a golden day you lose it. It has to meet all the Min and Max days on or off for your cat., and it won't let you work more the 6 days in a row.
Old 06-17-2011 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTriColor
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Kind of an off topic question. I doubt I am going to get anything awarded on this AE, most likely displaced if anything. But after I enter my AE preferences, it asks if I would like to retain my vacation or something along those lines. Also mentions something about pay protection.
What does this mean? Does it mean that if I choose to retain my vacation, I will NOT receive the award even though my seniority can hold it?
Or does it mean that someone junior to me may go to training before me?

I looked at the contract and couldn't find the information anywhere. Thanks for any info!

You will be awarded a AE regardless of which vacation option you choose. If you opt to keep existing vacations the company can train you out of contractual order to preserve your vacation and would not be required to pay protect you at a higher paying rate until you actually convert on that aircraft.
Old 06-17-2011 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTriColor
First time poster, long time reader.
Kind of an off topic question. I doubt I am going to get anything awarded on this AE, most likely displaced if anything. But after I enter my AE preferences, it asks if I would like to retain my vacation or something along those lines. Also mentions something about pay protection.
What does this mean? Does it mean that if I choose to retain my vacation, I will NOT receive the award even though my seniority can hold it?
Or does it mean that someone junior to me may go to training before me?

I looked at the contract and couldn't find the information anywhere. Thanks for any info!
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The part I bolded is correct.

You will have to rebid vacation if you are awarded a new position via AE or VD, not so with MD (ie involuntary displacement will allow you to retain your previously awarded vacation.)

I believe the screen you're talking about is referring to vacation that may conflict with training when they get around to scheduling you for qual training in your new position. If you choose to keep your current vacation, then you will not be pay protected. If you would rather keep your vacation (that conflicts with training) then you will go to training whenever they can schedule you for it - after you vacation is over.

Now I think this only applies if it conflicts with your training. Say you have Christmas vacation and they want you to go to class in September. I don't think you can say "nahh, I'd rather wait til next year"

I always hold the coveted mid-March vacation, so I never worry about them moving it. Figure it can't get much less desirable
Old 06-17-2011 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Too Tall
On icrew, Schedules, PCS, leave request, move reserve off days. I think it runs about 6 times a day, I would have to look to be sure. If you are looking to move a golden day you lose it. It has to meet all the Min and Max days on or off for your cat., and it won't let you work more the 6 days in a row.
Found it. Thx.
Old 06-17-2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
If you want the change you describe it has to start at the bottom, and web boards are only a tool.
I think its too late to reverse course for this contract.
The die is cast.
Moak's "constructive engagement" will either succeed or it will fail.

So far, it doesn't look good. I was hopeful that our new relationship with management would have led to some contractual adjustments after we cleared bankruptcy and started making profits again. That it would be more of a continuous process rather than a huge all or nothing deal at the amendable date. Now it appears we are going to DEC 2012 and probably beyond working under this same awful contract.
The "Recovery Compact" was a one way street.
Old 06-17-2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Then what's the purpose of the iPAds again? If I can't use it to fly an approach, I don't see the point in carrying a company "computer" that has the pubs that are already on board in paper form to begin with..
The point would be cost savings. You can replace every paper document in the cockpit except navigation pubs. Take a look at how many books that is on a 767. You also get to fire all the people responsible for maintaining those books and you get the weight reduction from taking them off the aircraft.

What Delta however wants is a lot more functionality then the Ipad can provide. They want it to interface with both dispatch, crew scheduling, maintenance and the aircraft. That kind of capability is months if not weeks away. USAIR is installing a product that looks much like a Ipad that Boeing markets that can do much of what I mentioned.

Again the Ipad has not been approved for use below 10,000 feet for any part 121 airlines. Most of the stuff quoted here concern part 91 or 135 operations. The better written articles about Alaska mentioned that shortcoming and that they will still carry paper Nav pubs. Delta may yet buy the Ipad as interim deice because it will reduce weight on the aircraft and let them lay off a large number of employees. If I worked in aircraft publications for Delta I would be very concerned about the future of my job.
Old 06-17-2011 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You will be awarded a AE regardless of which vacation option you choose. If you opt to keep existing vacations the company can train you out of contractual order to preserve your vacation and would not be required to pay protect you at a higher paying rate until you actually convert on that aircraft.
Perfect. Kind of what I figured. Thank you for the info!
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