Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Like Bar, 70 hour min guarantee is fine by me. I may be wrong but I'm sure if we touch that number then we're screwing with the total pilot count.
I dislike the 12%, like the 10% DC bump and would like lower premiums. I see this group voting for a SWA+8-15%, with the others as part of the deal. It would equate to about a 42% increase.
Must haves are fixing 23K. They go to the bottom of the bucked, what Bucking just wrote, the 5th and 6th weeks of vacation returning, and fixing the min day to a min day not a DPA or a DPM, and adding sick time. First and foremost is a Domestic Cabatoge clause that protects us from an end round in Sky Team, a sunset of DCI agreements, and the ability of our section on not just to bound DAL coded flying by any holding company or corporation that does a metal neutral, code share, interline, etc agreement with.
Must haves are fixing 23K. They go to the bottom of the bucked, what Bucking just wrote, the 5th and 6th weeks of vacation returning, and fixing the min day to a min day not a DPA or a DPM, and adding sick time. First and foremost is a Domestic Cabatoge clause that protects us from an end round in Sky Team, a sunset of DCI agreements, and the ability of our section on not just to bound DAL coded flying by any holding company or corporation that does a metal neutral, code share, interline, etc agreement with.
As to 23K, I'm all for that. I also have what I believe are zero cost stuff I'd like to see on reserve - an RUO for SC. I want to be able to see when I'm going to be up for SC because there sure seems to be a RUO to it, I want to be able to bid the time slots I want and I want the number of pilots on SC not to seem so at the whimsical.
The pending LOA that will count SC in RAW scores and the publishing of the SC #'s is a start in the right direction but there are just a few other things that could help make things better when it comes to SC.
Also reduce raw for a particular trip but not any and all trips would be nice to have... again?
OK but how about adding 1 or 1.5 hours to the min guarantee for each SC? This would be in addition to getting min day credit for it.
Is 80ktsclamp being held hostage somewhere?
[QUOTE=Superdad;1015848]I recently flew with a MSP Captain who told me that he would go for a 12% pay increase, an additional 10% company contribution to 401k, and a significant reduction in health insurance premiums, all to add up to what he called a roughly 30% pay raise.
The only thing I would consider a roughly 30% pay raise would be if the rates in pay were actually increased by 30%.
All that "total compensation" talk is something to talk about, but I don't want to see the pay get lost in translation.
DISLIKE.
The only thing I would consider a roughly 30% pay raise would be if the rates in pay were actually increased by 30%.
All that "total compensation" talk is something to talk about, but I don't want to see the pay get lost in translation.
DISLIKE.
The opener from the company I suspect will stun most pilots. I would expect something on the order of a 3 percent pay raise with 3 percent each year offset by work rule concessions to cover the cost of the raise. Visible pilot reaction to managements opener will help determine the final outcome of the contract.

but please please, no rat balloon.
According to SWA's welcome packet for the ValuTran pilots, the average SWA Captain makes over $230,000 per year. What would it take to increase a Delta MD-88/90 Captain's pay to $230,000?
The current 12 year MD-88 and MD-90 Captain rates average to $163.17/hour. Let's assume the flying is split 50/50 between the 88 and the 90 (that's probably a little generous). At 75 hours per month, our MD-88/90 Captain would make $146,853 for the year. At 80 hours per month, he would make $156,643.20 for the year.
To bring those numbers up to $230,000 would take the following percentage increases:
$146,853 + 57% = $230,000
$156,643.20 + 47% = $230,000
Sounds to me like we need quite a bit more than a 25-30% increase to get to "parity" with SWA.
Oh... and you mentioned C2K in another post. To get the current MD-88 Captain rate to the C2K MD-88 Captain rate, it would take a 47% increase. And that's not factoring in inflation. If you factor that in, it would take a 70% increase.
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disregard this
Modification from the floor:
I'm all for working and getting paid for it. Those who don't want to commute for reserve could use the long call to their advantage too.
- 70 hour guarantee is fine
- Every period of short call generates same 5:15 credit as pilots flying a trip
- Allow pilots to bid for as much short call as they can stand
- Status Quo w/ regard to max days on (no morons working 26 days a month)
- Allow reserves to white slip
I'm all for working and getting paid for it. Those who don't want to commute for reserve could use the long call to their advantage too.
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