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Superpilot92 07-03-2011 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1017124)
And...for no particular reason:


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Carl

I'm suddenly thirsty, hungry and hot all at the same time.....weird :-)

BRAVO!!

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DeadHead 07-03-2011 03:03 AM

Anybody else read the latest ALPA section 6 history breakdown?

Found the graph useful and the bright colors amusing, but what's the most important line figure? (Pilot CASM, Operating Margin, Operating Profit)

Just trying to wrap my head around all the data.



Superpilot....that animation is freaking me out

Pineapple Guy 07-03-2011 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1017186)
Anybody else read the latest ALPA section 6 history breakdown?

Found the graph useful and the bright colors amusing, but what's the most important line figure? (Pilot CASM, Operating Margin, Operating Profit)

Just trying to wrap my head around all the data.

Deadhead, Operating Profit shows the raw cash potentially available for pay raises and contractual improvements. Operating Margin shows that as a percentage of revenues, making it easy to compare our relative profitability to other carriers. Pilot CASM shows our pilot costs relative to other carriers and can also be useful.

These are all just different metrics that constitute a few pieces of the puzzle. History will show you, a pilot group gets significant raises when three things line up:

1) Company is making good profits
2) The pilots are unified
3) Other pilot groups are also pattern bargaining up

In the current environment, unfortunately at the moment, you also have to convince the NMB, which despite its two "labor friendly" members, has been anything but.

Bucking Bar 07-03-2011 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1017187)
Deadhead, Operating Profit shows the raw cash potentially available for pay raises and contractual improvements. Operating Margin shows that as a percentage of revenues, making it easy to compare our relative profitability to other carriers. Pilot CASM shows our pilot costs relative to other carriers and can also be useful.

It is a good publication.

forgot to bid 07-03-2011 05:20 AM

What the heck was the party in New York for? Was this the party in 09 or 10 or is this an annual thing?

And when is the RAH ruling?


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1017152)
ALPA vs DPA

ALPA
1) Represents Delta, regionals and other competitors
2) 1.95% dues
3) President/Chairman is chosen by a small group
4) Refuses to publish MEC Flight Pay Loss data for 2010
5) Designated (PWA 24.J.3.) Reps are paid by the company
6) Reps are not required to fly specific amounts
7) President compensated $498K in 2010
8) President has a $6,500/month housing allowance
9) President has a $1,300/month plus fuel car allowance
10) Designated Reps earn 92 hr guarantee plus $1000 over-ride plus green slips/paid what they could hold, not bid
11) Reps may drop trips for ALPA work over holidays
12) $1.67M in expenses in 2010 for 12 DALPA meetings
13) $329/night each for 80 rooms (Westin Times Square NYC)
14) Spent $124,500 on meeting food/drink for 5 days in NYC
15) Meetings held in resort destinations (FLL, MCO, LAS)
16) Dues dollars used to buy alcohol at meetings
17) Dues directly subsidize regional competition
18) Political voice abused - Pushed AGE 65 majority opposed
19) Attorneys shared by competition
20) Pays DFR lawsuit settlements to competition
21) Regionals have right to comment on DAL scope proposals
22) Leaders move on to management jobs
23) Survey results kept secret
24) Pilot negotiators backed by shared/conflicted attorneys
25) Base reps - varied demographics and base size
26) Oil portrait of all ALPA Presidents required by Nat’l policy

DPA
1) Represents Delta Pilots exclusively
2) 1% dues goal
3) President/Reps are elected by membership
4) Open finances accessible by all members
5) Reps are paid out of member dues and earned flying
6) Reps fly a half line minimum (stays tuned to line needs)
7) Leader/Reps compensation modeled after SWAPA
8) Housing allowances modeled after SWAPA
9) Transportation allowances modeled after SWAPA
10) Reps pay modeled after SWAPA, at rate actually bid for, ensuring greater empathy for the block represented
11) No regular association business/trip drops on holidays
12) Majority of routine work done over teleconference
13) Hotels like crew layovers/Focused on wise use of dues
14) Focused on wise use of member dues
15) Meetings held in crew base locations only
16) Reps purchase own alcohol at meetings
17) Dues used exclusively for benefit of Delta pilots
18) Influence used solely to respect Delta pilot mandates
19) Exclusively focused attorneys - no conflicts of interest
20) Association not responsible for representing others
21) No other airline has a say in Delta contract proposals
22) Five year non-compete clause
23) Survey results posted
24) Professional negotiators backed by pilots
25) Seniority Block reps - uniform size/similar demographics
26) Digital photograph of President more than sufficient


Columbia 07-03-2011 05:28 AM

Would it not be much cheaper to make the magazine electronic vs. hard copy plus postage?

hockeypilot44 07-03-2011 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1017059)
Talked with a very senior 744 A last night. He put in his papers but will wait until the 14th to make his decision.

I still think 60 is a good number. This guy will not retire.

forgot to bid 07-03-2011 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1017176)
I'm suddenly thirsty, hungry and hot all at the same time.....weird :-)

BRAVO!!

http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/ima...y_clapping.gif

Super that's kind of scary looking. :D

jherk02 07-03-2011 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1017152)
ALPA vs DPA


26) Digital photograph of President more than sufficient

Priceless!

What is a thumbnail sketch of the SWAPA model for compensation?

DAL 88 Driver 07-03-2011 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by jherk02 (Post 1017250)
Priceless!

What is a thumbnail sketch of the SWAPA model for compensation?

• Industry leading B737 Pay Rates. SWA Captains average over $230,000 and First Officers average over $140,000.

• Approximately the last five years, SWA pilots averaged 105 “Trips For Pay” (TFP) per month, or about 1260 TFP per year.

• Approximately the last five years, SWA pilots averaged just over 18 days off per month.

• Per Diem rates are among the highest in the industry: $2.15 per hour away from base.

• SWAPA considers our Duty and Trip Rigs to be the strongest in the industry, as they protect pilot productivity and efficiency.

• Minimum Daily guarantee is 6.5 TFP; Ex., a 3-day trip pays a minimum of 19.5 TFP.

• Duty hour rig is .74 TFP per hour, minimum.

• Reserve guarantee is 90 TFP per month; but actual months pay average around 105 TFP.

• Reserves are allowed to pick-up extra flying.

• Holidays pay 150 percent.

• Open Time trips pay up to 150 percent.

• Junior “forced” assignment pays 200 percent.


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