Puleeeezzz......the geeks at airliners.net have been discussing for day now. There's nothing secret about it ( nor proprietary or confidential).

You're judged by the company you keep. IMO, Seham involvement with the USAirways pilots has been disastrous for them and by extension all of us. Even USAPA apparently has unloaded this guy, so why is DPA still in bed with him? It just seems like a potential deja vue all over again. Hope I'm wrong.

Sorry but I not buying the argument that we should be fearful of what COULD happen as a reason to support the status quo that is ALPA.

I'm not buying it and DPA just got another authorization card sent in today.

I'm sick and tired of being given piecemeal information while being told WHAT I should be asking for. The survey was a carefully crafted manipulation tool that can, and will, be thrown back in our faces during and after our opener.

The spit in the face comes in the form of DALPA's decision to withhold the survey results from the pilot group, and that is the straw that finally broke the camel's back for me.


Wondering if anyone else could substantiate this....
I've also been told that the TWA lawsuit against ALPA would come out to a financial penalty equivalent to $16,000 per pilot.
Not trying to spread this rumor, just would like to know the accuracy of it.

WIthout a doubt I can personally say that I will not pay for ALPA mistakes regarding TWA. Not sure what I can do besides go with other representation but that takes time and nothing will be in place when we need it most (like getting ready for openers soon at DALPA) DPA has kinks to workout staplers to buy, by-laws to be vetted and published for all to see, a solid business plan etc. Any group looking to draw DAL away from ALPA has to do that, but any group at this juncture trying to do that and promising all will be better is noble but not practical. A united front is what is needed next not re-branding and new marketing ideas. Time is critical and short, I am not happy with anything right now or any one group. But I have to be realistic about what can and can't be done in the short time remaining. DPA has a great start and if things are not any better here by dec 31,2012 I will buy a case of staplers for the next group I can put my vote behind.

Anything even remotely touching, related too, looking like what has degraded things or at USAPA or APA will not get my vote, truth be told....

In connection with our acquisition of Mesaba, we modified our existing capacity purchase agreements with Delta to provide for a rate adjustment that is designed to increase our rates under all of our capacity purchase agreements with Delta commensurate with the increase in pilot labor costs related to our Delta operations. The rate adjustment will be calculated and agreed to by us and Delta 12 months after Pinnacle s and Mesaba s pilots are covered under a joint collective bargaining agreement, which occurred in February 2011. As part of the rate adjustment, we will receive a one-time retroactive payment related to the prior 12 months for the increase in our pilot costs, inclusive of training and displacement related to the merging of Pinnacle s and Mesaba s jet operations. In addition, we will receive a prospective adjustment payable for future periods such that our rates pertaining to pilot costs will be approximately equivalent to our actual pilot costs at the time of the rate adjustment. While we will not receive any cash payments related to these adjustments from Delta until 2012, we currently estimate that the one-time retroactive adjustment related to the 12 months ending March 2012 could be as much as $18 million to $20 million, and the prospective rate increase that would begin in March 2012 could be as much as $14 million to $17 million annually. No assurances can be made that the amount of the rate adjustments ultimately agreed to with Delta will equal our current estimates. We have not recorded any revenue associated with these rate adjustments in 2011, and we do not expect to recognize any of this revenue until 2012 upon the final determination of the amount with Delta.

UEFFINGBELIEVABLE !!!!!

I've stated them over and over again, but you don't listen. Seham's actions on behalf of USAPA are doing what the client wants. Specifically, keeping the Nicolau award from being implemented by any means possible. So far, that's been successful. You can't see past anything except that USAir pilots decertified ALPA. That's the same reason you cannot admit anything good about Lee Seham and his firm.

Evidence please.

Evidence please.

Evidence please.

Evidence please.

Evidence please.

Lee Seham promised no such thing. You're just making that up.

Other than doing precisely what he was hired to do, which was: figure out a way for the Nicolau award to not get implemented. 4 years later, Nicolau award still not implemented.

Evidence please.


Lee Seham has done exactly what he was hired to do by USAPA. He was hired to decertify ALPA and keep the Nicolau award from being implemented. If USAPA is indeed "hemmed in", it is not because of Lee Seham, it is because USAPA sets the agenda and runs their operation.

USAPA undershot our compensation....Not Lee Seham. Lee's job was to decertify ALPA and keep the Nic award out. Lee's job is not to set the compensation level for pilots at USAir. I know you know that, but I also know it's your job to lie for the MEC...while on full flight pay loss.


I do. And I've posted the supporting documents to prove it. Instead of responding to it, you do what you always do: Go into the witness protection program until your false posts are forgotten, then come back to post the same lies on behalf of our MEC.

Carl

Dear alfaromeo,

I have a question for you now that I've answered all of yours:

What are your thoughts of our ALPA lawyers given the following FACTS?:

1. Jury found ALPA and its lawyers failed to represent TWA pilots.
2. Judge found ALPA and its lawyers liable in trying to ignore the contract and bust the union of ALPA's own in-house union of clerical employees.
3. Judge hit ALPA's lawyers with a Rule 11 sanction for lying about the lawyers representing TWA pilots. One of those lawyers being considered for the Missouri State Supreme Court.

Again alfaromeo, what are your thoughts on ALPA's lawyers?

Carl

I'm with you, about being responsible in some way as a dues-paying union member to pay off this costly lawsuit. Since when did I become responsible for all of ALPA's mistakes. I try to keep a level head without jumping to conclusions, but having to take our dues and use them to pay for this lawsuit is beyond my boiling point.


As far as DPA is concerned, I think each and every in-house labor union self defines themselves as a group. The APA group is very different from the USAPA or SWAPA, I'm not saying it will be a walk in the park, but I'm willing to hear the case presented to us. If we can keep a clean simplified balance sheet with very direct, clear communication, then I don't see any reason to fear a transition to DPA.
I'm not saying necessarily that I would vote for DPA at this point in time, but I would like to hear more information about it while being open to a vote in the near future. (Preferably after DALPA's opener is made public to the pilot group)


Now Carl.....Where can I find an authorization card?

When LSU kicked that FG, the announcers talked about Bama wishing they had Cody because he blocked a UT FG that would have given the VOLS a big upset last year (or was it the year before?) Anyway, what I found amusing about that is that they failed to mention that the Tennessee FG kicker kicked the ball chest high and all Cody had to do was stand there and get hit in the tits...

And if Tennessee public education systems required being able to count to 11, we would have beat LSU that year too.


shoulda coulda woulda :(

Why don't you tell us what you do for DALPA slowplay? You don't have to out yourself, just something generic like your position as chairman for one the MEC committees. You know, like Negotiations, Strategic Planning, etc.

Carl