Here's the problem deadhead, DALPA's opener will NOT be made public to this pilot group. Not even a summary. That was precisely stated by the council 20 LEC chairman. You won't know how bad the opener was until you see the TA for you to vote on. And that will be far too late because even with a NO vote and total solidarity, you'll never do better than the opening position. If that opener was horribly weak, then horribly weak is the best you can do...even if you vote in DPA.

Carl

To me, this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. My intention is to use whatever tools are out there to gain us the best contract given the new role of arbitrator being played by the NMB. With that in mind, I want to use the SWAPA contract as a tool to force the NMB's hand. How SWAPA got that tool for us to use is immaterial. The tool IS there. I want to use it. DALPA does not. Instead, DALPA wants to lie about it. To the extent that SWAPA guys come on here and call out the lies, that's good for us because for some sick reason, DALPA does not want us to use any leverage or tools to gain an industry leading contract. DALPA's only intent is to explain to us why we can't.

Carl

4-day bucket = 4-day bucket.
Then its RAW score.
After that it's completely up to the scheduler...
They may look ahead and based reserve availability on days 5-9 pick one or the other.

Your only form of affecting the outcome is filling out your "if needed to fly" preferences, but those are no binding and typically will only come into play if there are two trips to assign...

Cheers
George

US Embassy warns about possible attack on Nigeria hotels


The U.S. Embassy warns that three luxury hotels in Nigeria's oil-rich capital, Abuja, may be the next target of a radical Muslim sect responsible for this week's attacks that have killed 100, papers including Nigeria's Daily Times and the Washington Post report.
The sect known locally as Boko Haram may target Abuja's Hilton, Sheraton and Nicon Luxury hotels, where diplomats, politicians and prominent business people - both from Nigeria and abroad - often meet.
The U.S. Embassy's warning is a reminder that hotels - especially Western hotels where foreigners typically meet - remain a soft target around the world.
The Post calls the warning "unusually specific."
According to the Post, the embassy says "the attack may come as Nigeria celebrates the Muslim holiday Eid al-Adha and that its diplomats and staff had been instructed to avoid those hotels."


More fun for the malaria jet crews.

TO tag on.
There is a 5+ day bucket, a 4 day, 3 day, 2 day and a 1 day bucket. The 5+ day bucket is the one that we are looking at. If they opted for this bucket to cover the trip:
With both RAW's being equal and no one having a yellow in, the junior guy goes above the senior one. If the senior guy has a yellow and the raws are equal he goes first.
Also if one is on SC and the trip is assigned after SC has been assigned for the following day they can go to the next available pilot.

But Carl, why do you state that we will not know how bad the opener will be! I totally get your bias and I totally respect your perspective. But right now this is our union and our voice if we choose to work together. I see 12,000 opinions trying to be collected in a survey and a lot of opportunity to voice free hand what we want in this survey. I dont see it as managing anything other than a huge volume of information....(even though sorry to say an apathetic % chose not to participate)

This opener is our DALPA opener. I expect it to be nothing less than industry leading....will it be c2k + 293.64% sure? but my reality says it most likely will not be. And if it is a BS contract, well then another party will represent this group next contract, be it DPA or the Carl Fraternal Order of Pro Pilots..

Right now, no group in my opinion, can step in with time remaining to have anything but a detrimental affect. Not the way I want to go forward but reality is just that reality and we have to go forward with what we have.

So I am doing what I can to be sure our opener is nothing less than industry leading plus plus. My card is already signed, and will be voted on after are next contract. Will it be a yes or no vote totally depends on DALPA!

Carl,

ALPA's lawyers are like most lawyers you find outside of your television set. They do what their clients hire them to do. Same logic you use to defend Seeham's cases that haven't panned out.

The problem was, and is, ALPA's own decision making and intransigence. (Same problem at US Air)

Here's where the DPA could actually do some good, if it wanted. The DPA has the numbers to probably recall everybody in the MEC and clean sweep the Admin. The DPA could act to change the policies it deems wrong.

The DPA has not acted to change policy. They have instead decided to attack the institution ... which suggests to me the DPA is mostly OK with ALPA's policies and practice.

Bottom line ... the DPA has not shown us a better way forward.

Thanks for the replies and insight georgetg and acl65pilot.

Well said. I agree with what you say. Problem is that DPA's hatred of National is clouding their vision, and because of that they refuse to engage in the local process to get the leaders they want. Like I had said, engage in the process you have or accept the results.