Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-04-2011 | 05:19 PM
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07-04-2011 | 05:50 PM
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Okay, so does that include just vacation. Or does it include reserve days not worked, sick days, etc. Tell me how you know the answer and tell me how this compares to Delta.
Now, just to complicate this, SWA averages a little over 80 hours per regular line per month. If we use their data that says they average a little over 13 days per month per regular line, that comes out to about 6:10 per day. Now if they get to 90.5 hours per month, that would put them around 14.5-15 days per month on average. This doesn't include reserve line holders.
Please, let me know how this all adds up. Delta shares data with all the other domestic carriers and they know the answers to all these questions. I don't, but they do. They will not be swayed by a glossy brochure meant to get Airtran pilots to give up on their seniority integration and they will not be swayed by internet blowhards that don't know crap about anything but don't let them stop bloviating anyway.
Now, just to complicate this, SWA averages a little over 80 hours per regular line per month. If we use their data that says they average a little over 13 days per month per regular line, that comes out to about 6:10 per day. Now if they get to 90.5 hours per month, that would put them around 14.5-15 days per month on average. This doesn't include reserve line holders.
Please, let me know how this all adds up. Delta shares data with all the other domestic carriers and they know the answers to all these questions. I don't, but they do. They will not be swayed by a glossy brochure meant to get Airtran pilots to give up on their seniority integration and they will not be swayed by internet blowhards that don't know crap about anything but don't let them stop bloviating anyway.
07-04-2011 | 05:55 PM
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07-04-2011 | 08:12 PM
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FYI, 11th yr SWA Captain here. I believe I'm pretty representative of an "average" (or more likely slightly below average) SWA pilot in terms of earnings & productivity. I commute to my base. I have small kids at home. I have a great life outside this job and very much enjoy all the days off I can get. IOW, I basically fly my line and try to improve it where I can through trip trading WITHOUT increasing total work days each month. I pick up very little (~6 extra work days total last year). My 2010 W2 showed $224,860 and I flew 761 hours....virtually all of it at straight pay. I mostly do one 3-day trip each week, or the occasional 4-day every now and then. They're usually not commutable. I shoot for an average of 100 TFP monthly throughout the year to hit our annual household income target. I have 4 weeks of vacation each year.
Best of luck with your negotiations.
Best of luck with your negotiations.
Thanks for posting. If you have the time, it is my understanding that SW has an approximate 10% profit sharing payout. If you are able to deduct your profit sharing from your W2, could you let us know if its around 10% and your new adjusted W2?
Thanks for helping this discussion.
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07-05-2011 | 01:34 AM
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I'll now have done two days flying on reserve for a whopping 5:13 total. A lineholder would be paid 10:30 for the same thing. It just doesn't seem fair.
07-05-2011 | 03:36 AM
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alparomeo,
I don't know if I'm an internet blowhard and I certainly don't know crap about much. But what I'm absolutely sure of is that I'm working much harder for much less money and much less time off than at any time in my 24 years at the big D.
Now I don't expect alpa to give away our negotiating secrets. However, RA & EB have mentioned at many of the investor calls this year that they don't expect any significant changes to payroll going forward. Surely alpa can state firmly and at every opportunity the exact amount of sacrifice the Delta pilots have made to keep this company alive, and further that we rightly expect very significant increases in all areas of our compensation in the near future.
Alpa has completely lost touch with the line pilot. It is for this and for too many other reasons to list, that I have sent in my DPA card.
I don't know if I'm an internet blowhard and I certainly don't know crap about much. But what I'm absolutely sure of is that I'm working much harder for much less money and much less time off than at any time in my 24 years at the big D.
Now I don't expect alpa to give away our negotiating secrets. However, RA & EB have mentioned at many of the investor calls this year that they don't expect any significant changes to payroll going forward. Surely alpa can state firmly and at every opportunity the exact amount of sacrifice the Delta pilots have made to keep this company alive, and further that we rightly expect very significant increases in all areas of our compensation in the near future.
Alpa has completely lost touch with the line pilot. It is for this and for too many other reasons to list, that I have sent in my DPA card.
07-05-2011 | 04:21 AM
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alparomeo,
I don't know if I'm an internet blowhard and I certainly don't know crap about much. But what I'm absolutely sure of is that I'm working much harder for much less money and much less time off than at any time in my 24 years at the big D.
Now I don't expect alpa to give away our negotiating secrets. However, RA & EB have mentioned at many of the investor calls this year that they don't expect any significant changes to payroll going forward. Surely alpa can state firmly and at every opportunity the exact amount of sacrifice the Delta pilots have made to keep this company alive, and further that we rightly expect very significant increases in all areas of our compensation in the near future.
Alpa has completely lost touch with the line pilot. It is for this and for too many other reasons to list, that I have sent in my DPA card.
I don't know if I'm an internet blowhard and I certainly don't know crap about much. But what I'm absolutely sure of is that I'm working much harder for much less money and much less time off than at any time in my 24 years at the big D.
Now I don't expect alpa to give away our negotiating secrets. However, RA & EB have mentioned at many of the investor calls this year that they don't expect any significant changes to payroll going forward. Surely alpa can state firmly and at every opportunity the exact amount of sacrifice the Delta pilots have made to keep this company alive, and further that we rightly expect very significant increases in all areas of our compensation in the near future.
Alpa has completely lost touch with the line pilot. It is for this and for too many other reasons to list, that I have sent in my DPA card.
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07-05-2011 | 04:35 AM
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alparomeo
I read my post and yours...seems like your the one having trouble controlling your emotions.
I read my post and yours...seems like your the one having trouble controlling your emotions.
07-05-2011 | 04:37 AM
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alparomeo
I see you pulled your emotional rant...as you were.
I see you pulled your emotional rant...as you were.
07-05-2011 | 05:03 AM
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I asked this question and was told to let them know if I don't want to receive my printed copy. That way they can make that copy available to college students or other prospective members. I figured they might gain some more regional airline members this way so I didn't do it.
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