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I'm sure they're not going to let RAH off the hook for gaming the system. It's too blatant and too precedent setting to allow RAH to continue as a DCI. Especially with all that the NMB provided in their ruling.

RAH is 1 airline from Frontier to Shuttle to Chautauqua and our section 1 does not allow an airline to fly for us and fly Airbus A320s and A319s. To not fight this would be suicidal. Because it would be an admission of surrender, inept enforcement capabilities or worse yet a horrifically written PWA on ALPA's brilliant lawyers part, or all of the above.

But how do you go forward with a leadership team that either won't fight, can't fight or trusts lawyers who can't write?

Either way, it'd be a suicidal decision and I just don't think DALPA will go down that road.

That was awkward though. I didn't believe him. He's iceman, he's just luring Maverick in. He flies as cold as ice or something.

But he never stopped saying "you're dangerous..." even when he came over to the 3 man MD-88 crew:

ICEMAN - The Later Years from NiNo

 

Good points - I had said 737 because I was trying to avoid the "which airplane do we compare SWA 737s to" but you did a great job of explaining how their 737 vs our 737s isn't an apples to apples comparison.

 

Buzz,

I saw what you wrote. That was a great post.

 

Maybe contrails was lucky enough to ride in an airplane piloted by Iceman.

 

They already have. After almost 5 years of negotiations the NMB kicked them to the curb and iced them ending all efforts at mediation. With zero progress and no hope of progress the pilot group fired those who came up with that strategy and put in place a more moderate group. That group in turn hired ALPA to assist in the negotiations and provide the political clout to get the process back to the NMB and moving again.

 

Formal and highly publicized "openers" are pointless. They've become counter-productive and actually a detriment to getting a final agreement.
Now that Moak has ushered in his new age labor relations with constructive engagement and the recovery compact and all that, I wouldn't be surprised if this time around we collaborated with our management counterparts and decide to dispense with the kabuki ritual of "openers".

 

Negotiating in public is a detriment to both sides. Ask UCAL mgt. how beneficial puttting out a public opener was for them...They are unifying the pilots faster than CALAPLA and UALAPA could have ever dreamed.

Keep closed negotiations closed.

Read all the materials, do some of your own research, spend real time thinking about the contract survey and your "dealbreakers". Take the time to fill out the survey. Be ready to show for SPC events when called upon.

Always remember that family time is important and that time spent away from home is time you'll never get back.

 

If you are on SWA, yes. On DAL, you start writing a letter....

 

They trailed all the legacy's until 2004, the height of bankruptcy season. They have NEVER pushed the bar higher in any contract they ratified. They only "lead" because everybody else slid backwards. They are the ULTIMATE in proactive engagement with their management.

So what do you really want from your bargaining agent?