That's right. We're second class pilots on reserve.

Yes. From you and slow and the other ALPA lemmings. I've said previously that one of the problems of being in ALPA is that we don't get to control our finances...ALPA does. You lemmings have repeatedly said how wrong I was and that once the money is budgeted for Delta pilots, it is then controlled by Delta pilots.

Don't worry, I always new you weren't serious about that anyway.

So you're saying that we should never think about leaving ALPA...not because ALPA is the best for Delta pilots, but because ALPA will steal the money from Delta pilots that was budgeted for Delta pilots? That about right?

Carl

Amazing deflection of the facts and complete ignoring of very recent history. No TWA pilot was asking ALPA to be their Fairy Godmother. All they asked was for the representation they were paying for. What did TWA pilots get? Lies, double dealing, destroyed documents, destroyed computers (except one thank God) and withholding of money. Not my opinion, but the jury's verdict. Open your eyes for crying out loud!

Read above. Because clearly, bankruptcy is not always the cause.

Carl

They did not learn from the past. In the last downturn there was one airline that was hedged on fuel. That airline was 20 percent of the domestic market. If you control 20 percent of the domestic market you control pricing. They simply refused all fare increases and the other airlines could not raise prices or increase yield. This was a deliberate attempt to put UAL out of business and hopefully one more legacy airline. This is almost a direct quote from SW management at a CP meeting. We are going to use our fuel hedges to put one or two major airlines out of business.
The plan failed and SW was now in a position it was not used to being in. Their cost structure was now high enough relative to the legacy airlines that they could not go into almost any market and push the old carriers out. As a result basically all growth stopped and they had to follow the legacy model of mergers for growth. One failed merger and one merger that is almost done.
What has allowed the increase in revenue with the uptick in fuel prices is that no major airlines are hedged. Everyone has to go along or not make money. If SW were hedged to the extent they were in the last downturn the industry would be a bloodbath now.

OK, the day had to come.... I agree with PG ! :D

Friend sent this to me. Used to stay up late and watch it as a kid......

Just thought I'd remind everyone why we do what we do.....

Ferd

1960s TV Sign Off // Current

Sailing;

What are you trying to say here?

I am reading between the lines, and what I get is: Delta sucks and is stupid. Gas prices will screw us again.

SWA is predatory and we are just a bunch of honest boyscouts.

Is that about right?

There is not a required schedule check at 1500 on any day, but a wise pilot will check their schedule sometime AFTER 1500 on their last non-fly day since CS is allowed to post a trip or SC that may start as early as 0500. Pilots are required to check it after 1500 but may wait until 0200 the next day (night) if they desire. So the requirement to check your schedule actually is NLT 0200 the next day (after midnight).

It gets more confusing if your rest starts at times other than midnight which is common since CS tries to give you this rest in conjunction with release from duty following a trip. They are not allowed to add time to your 12 hours following a trip unless they tell you about it BEFORE your trip ends. This is a common problem.

own a Scion? For $21,000 or $19,000. I'm really confused right now. That looked really new.


No wait sorry... buffering.

Ferd, sleep deprivation + voices talking about flying + T38 video... I think you were brainwashed into the USAF? :D


It's better than when I was growing up. You didn't want to see that sign off. It just meant the demons could reach out and grab you and suck you back into the tv. Thank you Hollywood for many a nightmare. aholes.