LCC is up for grabs and will probably be parted out. The PHL, and CLT hubs work best for AMR, and the LUV get the S-Curve benefit of PHX. I can see us getting some of the WB jets, and the B6 terminal in JFK if we see a three-way tie up.

I for the life of me cannot see getting DOT or DOJ approval for B6. I can see us buying parts of a tie up with AMR, and parts of LCC. If they do go for it, we will go for their parts, and then for AS. HI's stock will get hit, and make them a even larger buyout target.

Sounds like a plausible idea, but no one shows up to an LEC meeting so how would anyone recall anybody? People think that they can get change with a "Forever" stamp, when what is required is for us to all show up, demand our direction be followed, or shut up and color in between the lines. Since no one is showing up, it gives the appearance that people are satisfied, which by default is wrong. Over 25% of this group has sent in a DPA card, and that should be message enough that the silent majority does not think, nor act the way most assumed they did.

I too cannot see LaHood & the gang or the DOJ giving the nod for a B6 marriage, but it is way less toxic then UsAir & way less expensive then AS. Not sure how it'll work, but I just can't believe further consolidation isn't on the way.

I know that ACL has already responded to this but since I have dealt with this a couple of times, I thought I would pass along my experience. CS has a difficult time dealing with these rest days. Sometimes they don't even track them well. One month I had 2 rest days scheduled only 2 days apart because they didn't document something about the first one.

As far as obligations, there is no obligation to answer the phone, check the computer or otherwise acknowledge CS DURING the rest. What they can assign depends on when they do it. If they wanted to assign something that starts immediately following your rest, they would have to put it on your schedule BEFORE your rest starts. With rest starting at midnight that is unlikely. Since your rest is midnight to midnight, everything is based on what they could do to you on your last day off before RES. Nothing can be assigned to you to start before 0500 after your rest. If anything is assigned after 1500 the day of your rest, it must not start before Noon. If you check your schedule after 1500 on the day of rest and nothing shows up, you know that you will have no obligations before Noon.

If my memory is incorrect WRT this, my apologies.

Me too.....

acl, this is not directed at you, but it constantly amazes me that pilots think ALPA is some Fairy Godmother that can prevent any ill from ever afflicting every member, regardless of the external circumstances.

I have news for you. Bankruptcy SUCKS! And when you look at all the hits we've taken the past 10 years, there's your cause. Pilots at LUV, FDX, and UPS have great pay rates and benefits because they've continued to be incredibly profitable the past XX years. It has nothing to do with the strength of their pilot group or the shrewdness of their union.

And to think otherwise is naive.

Let me chime in with yet a 3rd interpretation of reserve responsibilities on a 24 in 7 rest period. Maybe someone can call the office and find out the right answer.

I think Uncle Sam is right on this part:
An assigned 24 hour rest period is different than a "last non-fly day".
There's no "1500" schedule check. During that 24 hours you don't have ANY obligation to answer the phone or check your schedule at all.

We differ on when you might be required to report following your rest:
If they haven't pre-assigned something and had you acknowledge it prior to that 24 hours then you just become a long call pilot at the end. Regular 12 hour leash.
It is legal for them to pre-assign a trip or short call to follow your 24 hours. ie= they call you and say you're on 24 hours rest starting 3:00 PM Tuesday and you have a trip that reports at 3:01 PM Wednesday.

What happens when oil goes to $100 barrel? The bill gets paid. There's a reason mgmt gets $5-10 Million a year-they are smart and know how to find revenue streams to pay their bills-things like bags, booze, change fees, Amex, food for purchase, code share revs, etc......they are smart about finding ways to pay fixed costs.

They are not THAT smart, or 4 carriers wouldn't have filed for bankruptcy.

Are you kidding? They discovered almost a Billion a year in bag fees. Food is now a huge revenue stream as is booze. Amex contributed over a Billion/year. Capacity discipline that didn't used to exist now drives fares which are 30% higher. ALL of these things did NOT exist just 3 years ago. They have learned from the past and have discovered that people are willing to pony up to see Meema.