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FedElta 08-04-2011 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by PastV1 (Post 1034002)
Here's our scope: FDX (There is more that deals with some relief)


The Company’s revenue flights (including Company revenue charter flights), conducted with aircraft owned, leased, or operated within the domestic or international operations described below, conducted with aircraft over 60,000 lbs. MTOGW, shall be flown only by pilots whose names appear on the Federal Express Master Seniority List in accordance with the terms of the Agreement.


There are some exceptions such as Morningstar that does our intra-Canadian flying in FDX owned 757's. Also some charter relief for Peak etc.

Hey Past,

This effectively limits scope a/c to Caravan, and F27 turboprops.....except for peak relief which is contractual and generates penalty dollars paid by the company.....is this still correct ?

Regards,
BG

johnso29 08-04-2011 11:07 AM

If anybody sees a crater on 3R in DTW, I just put it there. :D :o

johnso29 08-04-2011 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1034004)
Hey Past,

This effectively limits scope a/c to Caravan, and F27 turboprops.....except for peak relief which is contractual and generates penalty dollars paid by the company.....is this still correct ?

Regards,
BG

I think Mountain Air Cargo flies ATR's in FedEx paint.

80ktsClamp 08-04-2011 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1034004)
Hey Past,

This effectively limits scope a/c to Caravan, and F27 turboprops.....except for peak relief which is contractual and generates penalty dollars paid by the company.....is this still correct ?

Regards,
BG

I remember seeing the Kalitta whales doing the santa claus extra lift over the holidays... I was always interested to know what sort of contractual obligations there were to the FDX pilots with those wet leases.

80ktsClamp 08-04-2011 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1033992)
Riddle me this??? Did you use reduced thrust?

It is for this exact reason that I have somewhat changed my philosophy on the use of assumed temperature and derated thrust on the 737-800. I think the AWABS people have been overdoing it a bit lately. There's no reason we have to be using the whole runway on every takeoff. This whole balanced field thing is OK but there are some airports I'd prefer to get up and out of there or have a little more cushion if we ever do have to abort at high speed.
I used to automatically use the top line. No longer. Now I give a closer look to the RATOW and climb limits.

Did a takeoff out of ATL the other day with a double de-rate and geez...
Southwest taxis with more thrust than we had.
Used up the whole 27R and we weren't even that heavy.

I'm fine using reduced thrust... I've always examined the RATOW and climb limits along with the captain to make sure we're not too close. The 700 is a particularly good performer. It's pretty funny (and fun!) getting to climb power and seeing an 8 or 9% increase in N1.

The takeoff out of MEX in question was full power and bleeds off! :eek:

hoserpilot 08-04-2011 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Av8rking (Post 1033780)
Do you guys and gals honestly think the current scope will hold strong?! I have read time and time again on this board how scope should be the strongest part of the new contract! But lets all be honest and admit that most 50+ year olds don't have anything to do with internet message boards; let alone any of these forums! I know the bottom 30% believes in this philosophy, but how about the 70% that may be willing to allow the 50 seater to be replaced by a 70+ seat RJ in order to get a large pay raise? I hope for everyone involved you guys can hold strong! I would love to have the opportunity to be a real "Delta" pilot!

I was just sitting near two 50+ captains in atl. Both had lanyards on that had a one word statement. "SCOPE" I think our pilots have had enough taken and are ready to fight.

FedElta 08-04-2011 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1034007)
I think Mountain Air Cargo flies ATR's in FedEx paint.

Hey Johnso,

Ready, shoot, aim.....as usual , I misspoke. I believe the F27's have been replaced by 26 ATR42's.....operated by Mountain air Cargo for FDX.
Still under the 60,000 lb/gw xcope limit.

Regards,
BG................ps, How's the daughter ?

Superpilot92 08-04-2011 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1034041)
Hey Johnso,

Ready, shoot, aim.....as usual , I misspoke. I believe the F27's have been replaced by 26 ATR42's.....operated by Mountain air Cargo for FDX.
Still under the 60,000 lb/gw xcope limit.

Regards,
BG................ps, How's the daughter ?

I'm almost positive there was ATR-72's in Memphis the other day as well as 42's fwiw

FedElta 08-04-2011 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1034043)
I'm almost positive there was ATR-72's in Memphis the other day as well as 42's fwiw

Super,

Where ya' been , son ? Could be some 72's now.....they are still under the 60k g/w limit.

DAL 88 Driver 08-04-2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1034036)
I was just sitting near two 50+ captains in atl. Both had lanyards on that had a one word statement. "SCOPE" I think our pilots have had enough taken and are ready to fight.

Now if only our union leadership was ready to fight :(... but I digress.

I'll be 52 next month. Scope is a non-starter for me. I don't care what kind of pay increase they dangle in front of us. If it includes any kind of concession on scope, it's a BIG NO!


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