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Old 08-25-2011 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
slowplay,

Guess we already have rates for the B737-900? Will the fact that the orders are for the -900ER make a case for new rates? Since it can fly a longer mission?

A contract is a contract
3B6 was given away
Do the math
Old 08-25-2011 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Question: How many Delta passengers fly on e-190/airbuses operated by that separate ticket? Answer: Zero.

Question: How much revenue does Delta make on passengers flying on e-190/airbuses operated by that separate ticket? Answer: Zero.
More Questions:

When Comair makes a $40 million profit, which airline actually gets the money?

When RAH makes a $40 million profit, which airlines actually get the money?
Old 08-25-2011 | 10:43 AM
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SkyWest plans large regional jet order

23 August 2011

The airline group which owns SkyWest Airlines, Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ASA), and ExpressJet Airlines is in talks with four manufacturers about a firm order for hundreds of regional jets.

Read more: SkyWest Inc firm order regional jet Michael Kraupp Bombardier Embraer Mitsubishi Sukhoi

US regional airline group SkyWest Inc is planning to place a firm order for several hundred regional jets as it takes delivery of its last four aircraft on firm order this year.

SkyWest Inc CFO and treasurer, Michael Kraupp, says the airline group, which acquired ExpressJet Airlines last year, now has a fleet of 725 aircraft consisting of Bombardier and Embraer regional jets, many of which will be retired over the next years.

“As you can imagine we are going to have to start with a replacement strategy for each of our airlines,” Kraupp tells Airfinance Journal.

“To keep our fleet status quo, we need to replace...
Now I don't have access to the whole article, but yeah you have a fleet of 725 mostly 50 seat regional jets but why replace them if we're (for instance) getting rid of 50 seaters?

Or maybe they're looking at bigger than 76 "regional" jets. Maybe some branded flying? In that case, boy I'm glad we didn't do anything about AE/AMR flying in LAX, RAH flying with Frontier, TSA buying Mitsubishi jets, and now as we all think could eventually happen, Skywest will jump into that same holdings style flying. Maybe, maybe not.

chances of getting language in C2012 ending all of this outsourcing to fund competitors is as unlikely as saying end all outsourcing. We'll see how far this goes but if we fight this like we should I don't see any contract being signed within the next few years.
Old 08-25-2011 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Now I don't have access to the whole article, but yeah you have a fleet of 725 mostly 50 seat regional jets. Why replace them if we're getting rid of 50 seaters?
I'm not aware of a replacement aircraft for the 50-seat CRJ / ERJ.

What am I missing here?
Old 08-25-2011 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Now I don't have access to the whole article, but yeah you have a fleet of 725 mostly 50 seat regional jets but why replace them if we're (for instance) getting rid of 50 seaters?

Or maybe they're looking at bigger than 76 "regional" jets. Maybe some branded flying? In that case, boy I'm glad we didn't do anything about AE/AMR flying in LAX, RAH flying with Frontier, TSA buying Mitsubishi jets, and now as we all think could eventually happen, Skywest will jump into that same holdings style flying. Maybe, maybe not.

chances of getting language in C2012 ending all of this outsourcing to fund competitors is as unlikely as saying end all outsourcing. We'll see how far this goes but if we fight this like we should I don't see any contract being signed within the next few years.
We've got a lot of mess cleaning up to do in our next contract.

Old 08-25-2011 | 10:58 AM
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Or, let's remember that with constructive engagement you're playing with fire. A tiger is a tiger is a tiger, you can't make them into something else.



One of those is ALPA and one of those is the pilot group since we're in this process together. The tiger can be played by Delta Air Lines and their stockholders. Remember, we can make all the friends at the GO we want but we're not going to make friends with outside forces.

And damn that's a really feminine look we've got going right now.
Old 08-25-2011 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
More Questions:

When Comair makes a $40 million profit, which airline actually gets the money?

When RAH makes a $40 million profit, which airlines actually get the money?
I think the more accurate questions are:

When Comair loses $40 million, which airline actually pays the money?

When RAH makes a $40 million profit, which airlines actually paid the money?

Old 08-25-2011 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
slowplay,

Guess we already have rates for the B737-900? Will the fact that the orders are for the -900ER make a case for new rates? Since it can fly a longer mission?
I don't know, but I don't think so. When we got the 777-200LR we didn't get any rate modification from our 777 rate. One of the MD-90's we bought is an MD-90-30ER, and there's not a rate difference there either.
Old 08-25-2011 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Do you mean, did any captian lose their seat during the SLI? No, every captain kept their seat.

Now, with that said, subsequently, the company started moving planes and flying around. Since the only fence was at the top, 747/777, everything else was fair game. Some junior captains got displaced, but were pay protected. This was in accordance with the CBA and their seniority, and was as it should be.

The most junior captain is somewhere around early 1999, I think. Someone with easier access to a category list can be more precise.
Slow day at the crashpad. It's hard to predict the exact future, but once the DC-9 flush is complete and assuming every DC-9 Captain who can bumps into another Captain slot, it looks like the junior Captains will be a '98 South hire and '96 North hire.
Old 08-25-2011 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
I think the more accurate questions are:

When Comair loses $40 million, which airline actually pays the money?

When RAH makes a $40 million profit, which airlines actually paid the money?

Slow,

Your numbers (at least the direction) are probably right, but, Delta has done about everything possible to hurt Comair, following their strike. Pulling Comair's operations down resulted in very inefficient utilization of jets and crews. Sticking them with the old and unloved jets while trading away their new and more efficient jets made them more expensive. Using them as the Crack Spackle to fill in for Mesa killed their operational integrity and increased costs.

There is no doubt Delta is the worst regional airline management team in the history of the business.

Today we could buy AMR and their New York terminal for half of what we paid for Comair.

Comair's problems are not Comair's fault. They are division of Delta and Delta has spent around $18 billion (rough guess) feeding and expanding Comair's competition.

Maybe you can explain it to me, it does not make any sense unless this is some sort of vindictive thing that should be in the special victims unit of some Kentucky family law practice.

Imho they should have either expanded Comair and made it sexy to sell it, or taken it out back and shot it in the head. The "in between" has been painful to watch.
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