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cni187 08-27-2011 10:12 AM

So I'm a reserve guy, picked up a 4 day yesterday. Irene cancels our sunday run to BOS. Captain gets a domicile layover but they cancel my last day which is a DFW turn and give it out as a white slip to a REG guy. What gives? Do they not give domicile layovers to RES guys?

DAL 88 Driver 08-27-2011 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1045149)
So I'm a reserve guy, picked up a 4 day yesterday. Irene cancels our sunday run to BOS. Captain gets a domicile layover but they cancel my last day which is a DFW turn and give it out as a white slip to a REG guy. What gives? Do they not give domicile layovers to RES guys?

That's correct. You cannot do a domicile layover as a reserve. If that happens, the remainder of the trip goes into open time and is assigned using the same priorities as any other open trip.

forgot to bid 08-27-2011 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1045061)
LOL - maybe Carl/PG is the same guy, and he is schizophrenic :eek:


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1045091)
Oh no! You did not say that through a sock puppet did you?:eek:

Okay, wait, so there is a rumor that PG and Carl are the same person via a sock puppeteer?

I knew it.


Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1045090)
FTB,

You seem to be good at graphs and analysis. I have said this numerous times. IMHO, I really think it would be cheaper, in the long run, to run our own airplanes with our own pilots/company. Initially, outsourcing works. But the inefficiencies of outsourced works and the different variables of product degradation will come to play.

Is there a way you can graph (time line) something like this? Maybe put in variables like:
1) Price to contract DCI
2) Cost of Fuel for DCI
3) Lost customers due to aircraft usage (175s instead of 737s)
4) Lost customers due to "operated by XXXXXXX" I know many family members that will not book a flt on a DCI or Regional Airline
5) Loss of Revenues to DCI strikes and Labor/MGR disputes (ie RAH/F9 vs IBT)

I am almost certain that OUTSOURCING is a COSTLY way of doing business. I just think MGT does it to mitigate the cost of negotiating with MAinline pilots and also securing short term bonuses.

I think if you can graph and prove this, WE WILL GET BACK ALL OF OUR FLYING. THe proof is in the pudding.

TEN

Even with all of the internal financials and focus group data Delta had to offer I don't think that could be accurately drawn up.

I think if you want to show how damaging it is you point to the fact that combined we had 1060 mainline aircraft in 2000 and now we have 1354 but only 727 now with 627 regional. I'd like to know what the mainline to regional ratio was in 1990 and 2000?

Or you point to RAH...

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../9/1019973.jpg

we're playing with fire given RAH, Skywest and TSA know that Delta wants to end the guaranteed gravy train. They have no option but to explore other options.

forgot to bid 08-27-2011 11:20 AM

The storm hit Albemarle Sound and made a slight jog to the right and now the new computer models have it keeping that path and going slightly right of Manhattan instead of right over top. Going over top of Manhattan would've put the northeast quadrant of that storm right on top of JFK. That'd been bad news.

So my prediction- the storm strengthens a tad and goes back inland and towards its original NYC track and the northeast quadrant nails JFK.

JFK is ruined. All the terminals are knocked down except for one- terminal 3. Forever to be known as "the unsinkable terminal 3." Having survived the storm it provides Delta as the only airline capable of operating out of JFK for the next year. :p

forgot to bid 08-27-2011 11:25 AM

Having realized the incredible gift of God laid upon Delta's lap with terminal 3 being the only surviving JFK terminal, Delta management quickly reaches out for guidance of how best to handle being the dominating airline in a market place and references historical Delta managerial decisions from the past.

After a short bit of research, Delta announces it is pulling out of JFK.

Oh and the wifi is out in seat 16F.

buzzpat 08-27-2011 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1045185)
The storm hit Albemarle Sound and made a slight jog to the right and now the new computer models have it keeping that path and going slightly right of Manhattan instead of right over top. Going over top of Manhattan would've put the northeast quadrant of that storm right on top of JFK. That'd been bad news.

So my prediction- the storm strengthens a tad and goes back inland and towards its original NYC track and the northeast quadrant nails JFK.

JFK is ruined. All the terminals are knocked down except for one- terminal 3. Forever to be known as "the unsinkable terminal 3." Having survived the storm it provides Delta as the only airline capable of operating out of JFK for the next year. :p

I'm banking on Term 3 being leveled, we collect the insurance and begin reconstruction earlier than planned.

gloopy 08-27-2011 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by nerd2009 (Post 1044960)
I wonder if an out time would be generated when the tug driver moves the AC just a little bit to free a frozen chock? That happens a lot :)

If they are really going to INS movemement for out time, our on time stats are going to be trashed. At leat D-0. Thay will yield to even more "zero-tolerance" (zero-common sense) style edicts from on high to "fix it" and hurt employee relations by further increasing tensions between gate agents trying to do to their jobs and everyone non revving trying to enjoy an extremely hard earned and deserved benefit.

Not to mention, doesn't that effectively grant instant relief to the company from all our historic block times? Is the SWAA, err, I mean, the FAA, cool with this?

gloopy 08-27-2011 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1044932)
Maybe I just need to get out more, but I'm not sure if this is inside right boob or outside left boob.

Or maybe it's the drummer from Def Leppard?

LOL! YTF do you not work here?

I'm going with outside left. Inside right would require an insanely agressive photopgrapher with a machochistic assistant. And probably a lot of duct tape.

gloopy 08-27-2011 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1045002)
Why would we negotiate a concessionary contract when Delta is profitable? Ain't happening. Not buying it. If Delta is making money now, they're in a position to make LOADS when the economy comes back to full swing.

I would only add that when it comes to flying whatever planes the company wants flown, it doesn't matter if they are profitable or not. The issue shouldn't ever be scope relief nor should we question if scope recapture is feasable. Worst case for those who think we should pay for fuel or low fares out of our compensation is possibly advocating for a B-scale to fly all planes here. If someone can't rationalize that, they have no business advocating for off the seniority list RFP flying, even if they are right about the "affordibility", which of course they are NOT right about.

forgot to bid 08-27-2011 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1045153)
That's correct. You cannot do a domicile layover as a reserve. If that happens, the remainder of the trip goes into open time and is assigned using the same priorities as any other open trip.

Yep.

I started a 4 day a month or so ago, did 1 turn, got back so late they put us on a domicile overnight, someone WS the balance and I was just on reserve the rest of the week and didnt fly.


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