Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-30-2011 | 01:14 PM
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From: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift
..and don't forget that Fokker is also a Focke-Wulf ;-)
Its really all a matter of paint!
..looks like Sukhoi like that paintjob:
..and thats why Dimitry is smiling unlike Putin and Belousconi ;-)
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George
08-30-2011 | 01:14 PM
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08-30-2011 | 01:17 PM
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It was not just this week. This was the proverbial straw.
08-30-2011 | 01:21 PM
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Completely disagree with you, ACL. Coming out of bankruptcy and then acting as if our bankruptcy/emergency pay is the new norm and we don't expect much more than that going forward... and then doing that for FOUR YEARS (holy cow!)... well, I see that as a strategic mistake of epic proportions. It completely sends the wrong message to any parties with any possible interest (i.e. management, BOD, Wall Street, etc.) and it has had an extremely negative effect on the expectations of many in our pilot group. How can you possibly see it any other way?
And as far as the "words used." Well how else do you say that we are being compensated at bankruptcy levels, bankruptcy was over a long time ago, and we expect to be restored? I don't see anyway to walk on eggshells and effectively communicate that message. It can be done in a professional, respectful way... and this is exactly what I've been advocating. But it can't be done by tap dancing around it. We're all big boys and girls, and so is management. If this "relationship that Moak built" is so solid, then it will withstand a frank discussion of expectations.
And as far as the "words used." Well how else do you say that we are being compensated at bankruptcy levels, bankruptcy was over a long time ago, and we expect to be restored? I don't see anyway to walk on eggshells and effectively communicate that message. It can be done in a professional, respectful way... and this is exactly what I've been advocating. But it can't be done by tap dancing around it. We're all big boys and girls, and so is management. If this "relationship that Moak built" is so solid, then it will withstand a frank discussion of expectations.
Carl
08-30-2011 | 01:28 PM
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Basically if all category flying is governed by ALV across all bases, then the reserve required formula should also be across all bases.
It's not fair to have everybody flying their tail of, with no chance to swap. While the same category has 3x the reserves required and everybody just sitting around at another...
The solution is not in adjusting the swapping, but to adjusting either the reserves required or the ALV methodology to use the same metric.
Said another way:
ALV and reserves required formula across all bases
or
ALV and reserves required formula per base
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George
08-30-2011 | 01:32 PM
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T, you are spot on on this.
Basically if all category flying is governed by ALV across all bases, then the reserve required formula should also be across all bases.
It's not fair to have everybody flying their tail of, with no chance to swap. While the same category has 3x the reserves required and everybody just sitting around at another...
The solution is not in adjusting the swapping, but to adjusting either the reserves required or the ALV methodology to use the same metric.
Said another way:
ALV and reserves required formula across all bases
or
ALV and reserves required formula per base
Cheers
George
Basically if all category flying is governed by ALV across all bases, then the reserve required formula should also be across all bases.
It's not fair to have everybody flying their tail of, with no chance to swap. While the same category has 3x the reserves required and everybody just sitting around at another...
The solution is not in adjusting the swapping, but to adjusting either the reserves required or the ALV methodology to use the same metric.
Said another way:
ALV and reserves required formula across all bases
or
ALV and reserves required formula per base
Cheers
George
08-30-2011 | 01:35 PM
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The fact we have any pilots at all that do not think of scope as the #1 priority is ALPA's fault. I'll bet there's not a single pilot who thinks cabotage is unimportant. Why? Because ALPA has done a good job giving us the information on the dangers. Why won't ALPA give out the same information on the dangers of scope erosion? It would do so much to galvanize opinion on scope and enhance unity, but ALPA refuses. Why is that Bar? Why not an all-out communications assault on scope erosion similar to cabotage?
The answer is clear, but it's too painful for some to admit.
Carl
08-30-2011 | 01:36 PM
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How about a small addition to Section 1
All Delta flights performed by pilots other than Delta seniority list pilots exist solely to provide feed for flights operated by Delta pilots.
If we don't do that, what's to stop Delta from codesharing and placing pax on AA to go to DFW and UAL to go to IAD "because we wouldn't want to compete in those markets", the way we do with AS on the West Coast.
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George
All Delta flights performed by pilots other than Delta seniority list pilots exist solely to provide feed for flights operated by Delta pilots.
If we don't do that, what's to stop Delta from codesharing and placing pax on AA to go to DFW and UAL to go to IAD "because we wouldn't want to compete in those markets", the way we do with AS on the West Coast.
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George
08-30-2011 | 01:41 PM
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08-30-2011 | 02:05 PM
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Hey guys, sorry to interrupt the flow here but, quick question. A buddy of mine asked today and I can't remember how it works.
If he flies a regular schedule in September, that includes a spillover trip at the end of the month, and bids reserve October, does he get paid for the spillover time above the reserve guarantee, does it credit his bank, or does it simply count towards the reserve guarantee in October? Thanks.
If he flies a regular schedule in September, that includes a spillover trip at the end of the month, and bids reserve October, does he get paid for the spillover time above the reserve guarantee, does it credit his bank, or does it simply count towards the reserve guarantee in October? Thanks.
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