Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Delta (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/)
-   -   Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta.html)

Ferd149 09-03-2011 08:20 PM

Hey boys, I found FTB's Facebook page:D

https://www.facebook.com/mayhemhere

Cycle Pilot 09-03-2011 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by get there itis (Post 1048775)
On a mainline flight, that should not have happened. The RS & OO pass riders should have been S3C.

Make sure to report it because I know there are agents who seem to like to manipulate the standby codes to get certain people on, at the expense of those who should have.

This has happened to me a couple of times on my commute out of MSP. Once when I was deadheading and positive space. Agent put S3C's on the plane before me (S3). I was already on the plane when it happened so I couldn't confront the agent.

gloopy 09-03-2011 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1048848)
This sounds eerily familiar. We're only supposed to get a 3% raise and we used to be the highest paid and home of the pension. No expectations and lots to celebrate as everyone strives to be what you just did. Anything better than that and it will be a fantastic year. :D

SWA +3% for all 737-700 sized planes, up from there for larger planes and SWA scope (plus three percent there too?) sounds like that rep was being balanced and realistic in a challenging economic environment by pattern bargaining with a successful, profitable, low cost carrier. Mediators LOVE parity that is affordable at other places.

Carl Spackler 09-04-2011 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1048741)
Bill, Please post the names of the reps and what exactly was said. I will be the first to call them out on it.

Reposted since you don't seem to want to answer:


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1048748)
What would you call them out on slow? Would you scold them about their lack of desire to achieve an industry leading contract? Or would you scold them for saying it publicly?

Carl

What would you "calling them out" actually consist of?

Carl

sailingfun 09-04-2011 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1048962)
This has happened to me a couple of times on my commute out of MSP. Once when I was deadheading and positive space. Agent put S3C's on the plane before me (S3). I was already on the plane when it happened so I couldn't confront the agent.

Often good agents will board the bottom non revs first if they have seats knowing they don't have a chance at first class. If they think they might have first class seats from a miss connect ect... They will hold the highest priority non revs for those seats if they become available. If on the other hand the agent put the S3C's in first and boarded you last in coach there is a big problem. Print out the boarding results and give them to the CP's office.

sailingfun 09-04-2011 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1048989)
Reposted since you don't seem to want to answer:



What would you "calling them out" actually consist of?

Carl

Carl, The problem is that this rumor comes up again and again. In one case I was at the meeting where it was supposed to have happen. Never happened or anything close. Despite this being a ongoing rumor not once has anyone posted something to take it anywhere above a rumor level. Why? Kind of strange. There is certainly nothing wrong with posting items from a public meeting. Its done all the time on the other board. Guys will take notes and post everything they can remember. Not once in those notes has anyone posted anything about we can't achieve SWA.
Here is what I want to see to even begin to believe this is more then a rumor.
I went to the Council XX meeting on the XX Sept. The Captains reps XXXXX XXXXXXX stated that he was not in favor and did not feel we can achieve SWA payrates.

Carl, Why has the above never happened?

This rumor is much like the other rumor posted over and over again.
DALPA is in secret negotiations to give away 100 seat scope for a 25, 30, 40, 50, or 60 percent raise. Been posted over and over since DPA started up. Never been a single discussion with the company on the issue. Not to mention that anyone who stopped to look at the cost of the pay raises compared to the cost savings of running the airplanes at DCI would quickly realize how stupid the rumor is.

johnso29 09-04-2011 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1048934)

Hey! We already have something in common!! :D

forgot to bid 09-04-2011 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1048943)
Hey boys, I found FTB's Facebook page:D

https://www.facebook.com/mayhemhere

Here I am driving out of the airport posting on APCF...

http://crowdfusion.myspacecdn.com/me...ck-300x351.jpg


Hey, 5 leg days to a 9.04 hour overnight to a 5:40am wheels up next morning is not acceptable. That's very regional of us. That I want to see changed in the next contract.

sailingfun 09-04-2011 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1049009)
Here I am driving out of the airport posting on APCF...

http://crowdfusion.myspacecdn.com/me...ck-300x351.jpg


Hey, 5 leg days to a 9.04 hour overnight to a 5:40am wheels up next morning is not acceptable. That's very regional of us. That I want to see changed in the next contract.

Remember that every time you make a change in the contract it has unintended effects. We worked for and got a 8 hours behind the door rule in the current contract. The rule however leads to more 30 hour layovers on domestic trips and overall low time trips. I don't advocate one over the other just that you keep in mind that for every action there is a reaction. We can get longer layovers but it may come at the risk of lower time trips.

Columbia 09-04-2011 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1049038)
Remember that every time you make a change in the contract it has unintended effects. We worked for and got a 8 hours behind the door rule in the current contract. The rule however leads to more 30 hour layovers on domestic trips and overall low time trips. I don't advocate one over the other just that you keep in mind that for every action there is a reaction. We can get longer layovers but it may come at the risk of lower time trips.

9 hours a long overnight? Good luck getting 8 hours behind the door with that one. Doubt SWA has many such short overnights.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:49 PM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands