Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-07-2011 | 07:22 AM
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Where is it???
The AE, where is it? What is the word on the street???
The AE, where is it? What is the word on the street???
11-07-2011 | 07:22 AM
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No specific knowledge here, but I would guess their quick answers and not wanting detail are a result of the previous grievance about harassing guys that were sick. I'd be willing to bet that the company legal team has directed that behavior. I actually like it. If I think I need to provide detail, I'll call the CPSC. Schedulers do not need to know what's wrong with me.
11-07-2011 | 07:30 AM
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Ok, Ok, my third landing in the 88 was so hard that I think it may have changed the orbit of the earth. 
P.S. LOT landing: Some of the later articles are now contradicting the initial ones. Now they are saying the crew realized they were going to land gear up after reaching Warsaw and making several attempts to extend the gear. Although it's still a mystery as to why the Alt Gear Ext system failed, this account would make much more sense.
11-07-2011 | 07:35 AM
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DPA members as of today:
3856
and rising.
3856
and rising.
11-07-2011 | 07:38 AM
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DPA has been very clear from the getgo that Seham is only an interim law firm. DPA membership will be given a chance to choose what legal entity represents them. ALPA guys here keep trying to smear DPA by digging up dirt on Seham. Its really simply, let me state again, Seham is helping navigate legal questions as they pop up right now but have NOT been given any contract, a promise of contract, wink of the eye or anything else going forward. ALPA guys need to look for something else to pick on. Nothing to see here folks. Move along....
I'm tickled at the irony shown by this latest nonsense. For years, the ALPA apologists have shown utter contempt for anything whatsoever coming from USAPA. Now they list USAPA mailings as their SOURCES to prove their points. Hilarious! They use these USAPA mailings even though they're filled with statements like: "seems as though" and "looks like".
Truth is that Lee and Marty Seham are really tough guys. Really tough. They get results. They've successfully decertified ALPA, thus they will be hated by ALPA forever. Their latest success on behalf of the NBA referee's union is just another example. If any of these billing claims against Seham were actually true, don't you think they would have been disbarred by now? Or at least be on the losing end of a billing lawsuit?
Instead our usual ALPA apologists TOTALLY IGNORE the fact that our ALPA lawyers were fined and SANCTIONED by the judge in the TWA case for lying in court about an opposing counsel. But be sure you don't talk about that. Instead, just talk about alleged billing problems with the DPA law firm chosen to decertify ALPA.
Carl
11-07-2011 | 07:42 AM
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11-07-2011 | 07:55 AM
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Couldn't agree more.
Wait a minute...didn't you say at the top of this post that you're a DPA supporter? You need to get your story straight dude.
Carl
11-07-2011 | 08:01 AM
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Yet, you do hurl insults with the best of them. It really does take away from your argument. Consider me a fence sitter. I have issues with ALPA, but you aren't really selling me on DPA either. You come across as a mad kid intent on degrading everyone around him. It clouds your message. I would assume that all DPA supporters are like this, but I've had a few conversations with FlyingViking in the lounge and I know that's not true.
11-07-2011 | 08:10 AM
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See, this is what I'm getting at. Is it really wise to pee on your support, ala DALPA? I am more DPA than ALPA, thanks to conversations with others, but seriously, you are doing more to turn me off of DPA. I have to ask myself, Are all DPA supporters as angry and condescending as you? Do we have to toe the Spackler line, or can we be dissenting supporters? Will we be tolerated if we disagree with you, or will we be harangued as "closet ALPAites?"
11-07-2011 | 08:16 AM
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Is anyone surprised by the attacks on DPA? Looks to me like the ALPA supporters have taken to the tactic of attacking anyone and anything that dares point out the problems ALPA has. Working to provide an option for an alternative? Hearsay! You should only try to change ALPA by emailing your reps, and volunteering; anything else is complete lunacy, and devoid of earnest desire for bettering pilots' lives!
Honestly, I'm on the fence when it comes to which organization is better for representing my interests, but reading the smear campaign here against DPA leads me to believe the lady doth protest too much. Instead, why not a more intelligent defense to justify ALPA's ways, or an admission that many things do need to change without the standard rebuttal that you need to volunteer to change it from within, or write your reps, or attend a meeting or else your concerns aren't worth listening to? Sounds like all that has been tried, and yet we hear the same tired excuses. Members are apparently fed up with the same ol' lines that have worked in the past; they're tired of being taken for granted; tired of ALPA thinking they're too stupid or lazy to do anything about it; tired of the status quo.
Honestly, I'm on the fence when it comes to which organization is better for representing my interests, but reading the smear campaign here against DPA leads me to believe the lady doth protest too much. Instead, why not a more intelligent defense to justify ALPA's ways, or an admission that many things do need to change without the standard rebuttal that you need to volunteer to change it from within, or write your reps, or attend a meeting or else your concerns aren't worth listening to? Sounds like all that has been tried, and yet we hear the same tired excuses. Members are apparently fed up with the same ol' lines that have worked in the past; they're tired of being taken for granted; tired of ALPA thinking they're too stupid or lazy to do anything about it; tired of the status quo.
Smear campaign by DALPA? What the hell is DPA doing???
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