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Carl, That new process was in place before our JPWA. We re wrote the scope sections of two of ALPA's largest carriers who subcontract FAR more ALPA represented flying than any other carrier. What effect did this alleged "conflict of interest" have with our negotiations then?

You mean besides our scope language written by our ALPA conflicted lawyers that was so weak, those same lawyers say we can't defend it? This should be especially poignant to you given your thesis that it wasn't an oversight, rather it was ALPA writing the language this way on purpose.

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1082684)

... exactly. Tim's trying to make something out of fighting last decade's battle. He fails to understand what got him furloughed was a lack of unity. If we had insisted on those RJ drivers having seniority numbers NOBODY would have been furloughed.

I really wish you'd stop and think about what you've just said here for a moment. Do you really think that nearly 4,000 Delta pilots and a former MEC chairman would be supporting an organization commited to atoning for the furlough of Tim? Really Bar? You simply do not understand what this in-house union movement is about.

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1082684)

I want to meet and confer and work with our brothers to fix our profession. They are not my enemy.

My other airline brothers will not work under the Delta contract...only Delta pilots will. Thus there's no need to meet and confer with anyone else for MY contract. I prefer we fix our profession's problems by producing a pilot contract that leads the industry in EVERY SECTION. This would give our other airline brothers a higher bar to target.

Carl

Cycle Pilot

11-09-2011 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1082634)

I agree, but money does not have ethics.

You can be ethical, take care of your employees, AND make money...

Costco CEO Jim Sinegal - YouTube

Unfortunately, he announced his retirement this year at 75. Hopefully, they can continue what he started.

volav8r1

11-09-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dragon (Post 1082592)

Put the 70 in the percent column and don't even both with filling out the AE portion, unless you want a seat lock in whatever you pick up. By getting MD'd you will get to go anywhere you're senior enough to get into and you'll get no seat lock in case something you really want opens up in the future.

Good Luck

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Originally Posted by DFW Refugee (Post 1082593)

Vol:

The way I understand it, the system assumes you want to be #1 in catagory, or a percentage FROM the top. (100 pilots in the catagory, 30 reserves and you want to be a 'Line-holder,' 70% is the bid you place.)

Check on DeltaNet; Crew Resources and there should besome bidding guidance there; center of the page, towards the bottom. The 'other' forum should have a bidding guide too.

Good Luck!

Thanks guys.

acl65pilot

11-09-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1082702)

It is easy to do that with the pricing structure he employed. They had a flat markup on everything they sold. My recollection was a 10% margin.

COSTCO= China Off Shore Trading Company! :D

In reality I really like the model. The checkers make 15 bucks an hr to start, and the dept managers are well in to six figures. Store managers are mid to upper six figures. Great store, but they do target the 100K plus crowd.

Roadkill

11-09-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1082623)

But seriously, there are people at this airline who don't commute. I imagine you're frustrated but by asking for special treatment, you're taking stuff away from those who live in base.

IA, there are many folks who simply do not have the choice to live in base as you seem to. For example, I am $250,000 upside down on my house that I acquired during a 6 year furlough. My military job that paid for my food during those 6 years just didn't happen to be in a Delta base, and I started a family during those long years away, so I had to get housing. Now I'm back at Delta, I'd love to move to my base, any base, but unless someone gives me $250k, I can't...

Here's something you get already that is $$$ and I don't: free parking at your base. I'd love to have free parking at my airport, but instead of every pilot getting a parking stipend to do with as they desire, the "non commuter prejudice" kicks in and only those living in a pilot (or flt att) base get this perk. I pay about $150/mo for parking.

I think we can agree that life for the commuter is nowhere near as nice from an airline perspective as for those who are ABLE to live in base... rather than demanding that those less fortunate than you not get any improvement in their lives unless you get a commensurate good deal, can you not look upon those less fortunate and say, "Ok, THAT is a pretty crappy deal, maybe a small mitigation of pain so they only have 5 times the pain as I do would be ok..."

acl65pilot

11-09-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1082712)

Agreed, but some like to use the few pilots that live on the beach in FL because they want to. I only know two or three of those.

hoserpilot

11-09-2011 08:16 PM

The advanced entitlement is out. Just showed up in my email. Mem 320 getting whacked. Mem dc9 toast. Adding nyc a320 and atl a320 and 330. More details in the email.

My just before bedtime math says 350ish vacancies and surpluses......a wash. Movement off both the 747 and 777 though. )-;

80ktsClamp

11-09-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1082723)

The advanced entitlement is out. Just showed up in my email. Mem 320 getting whacked. Mem dc9 toast. Adding nyc a320 and atl a320 and 330. More details in the email.

Thank you, 5 pages ago :)

FlyZ	11-09-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1082618)

It is why I wish RA would charge DC on one issue he mentions. Fuel costs, and the fact that domestic tickets have to have the fuel included in the tickets. We can not add a fuel surcharge on after the ticket price for domestic flights. We must do this. Every other industry can do this. Breaking out the fuel cost would be a major win for us.

Also no reason to hire if you are going to get a flow agreement with a big regional like is rumored on the DALPA forum! :eek:

ACL, can you elaborate on this? To save us the technical troubles of logging on to the DALPA forum? My wife only allows one and I choose this one.:)

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