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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1082677)

:) The older I get, the world seems to be in the same cycle of doom, gloom or recovery. The world seems to always be repeating itself.

A wise man once told me, "to block out 70 % of the "noise" and do the right thing and never retract from doing the right thing because everything will be ok"

TEN

Read "The Fourth Turning"

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1082678)

They are doing everything in their power to minimize/stop that. It was the driving force behind your 5 am reports for a domestic trip in LGA. I used to layo there at least four times a month, no a NYC layo is an oddity.

Puhleeez. Carmen, or whatever that rotation building software is that decides what airplane/crew/whatever does what, and it doesn't care one wit about where crews layover. This crap hasn't changed in 20 years, and it isn't gonna change anytime in the next 20 either.. unless it happens to be a good deal layover for ATL crews... ;)

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1082679)

Read "The Fourth Turning"

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1082676)

The last 10 years' history has nothing to do with what we are facing early next year. There's a new process in place... .

Carl

Carl, That new process was in place before our JPWA. We re wrote the scope sections of two of ALPA's largest carriers who subcontract FAR more ALPA represented flying than any other carrier. What effect did this alleged "conflict of interest" have with our negotiations then?

... exactly. Tim's trying to make something out of fighting last decade's battle. He fails to understand what got him furloughed was a lack of unity. If we had insisted on those RJ drivers having seniority numbers NOBODY would have been furloughed.

I want to meet and confer and work with our brothers to fix our profession. They are not my enemy.

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Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1082683)

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I take it you have read it! :D

Point is history repeats itself.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1082680)

I dunno. 9 hr CMH layos are not a good deal, yet the ER bid package is full of em. :eek:

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1082672)

Carl;
SWA touts that but talk to the pilots that work directly with their management. Times are changing. Also their contract is designed to throw money at greedy pilots. Money covers many of the holes in their deal.

There is no doubt that it is a good company, but that is because they trow money at people to work their tails off. Ask the FA's how well they are paid. I know a few that are less than joyed at the whole SWA experience.

They have matured to the point that they are going to be another airline like everyone else.

I was being sarcastic. Sorry if I didn't make that clearer.

Oh man, I just realized...what if tsqure also thought I was serious? Better hire another bodyguard just in case. :eek:

Carl

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1082689)

I was being sarcastic. Sorry if I didn't make that clearer.

Oh man, I just realized...what if tsqure also thought I was serious? Better hire another bodyguard just in case. :eek:

Carl

He may, and he is the one you need two bodyguards for! :D

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1082675)

You sound a lot like a SWAPA pilot with this kind of argument.

The point I was trying to make is that not everyone commutes and it's unfair to focus solely on making it good for commuters. The way ALPA and the company seem to discuss issues is, Pilots want X, it costs the pilots X "dollars" or some sort of credits. By asking for the things like free hotels rooms and rearranging overnights so people overnight at home it will cost money - the company isn't going to do it out of the goodness of their heart. If the OP wanted things done for commuters, why can't there be things done for those who live in base? Obviously what I want asking for was TIC, but my concept is valid.

As ACL pointed out, I was lucky and don't have to commute now. I may have to commute in the future, who can predict the future. But as a commuter, I wasn't wishing for the PWA to be rearranged so my commute was easier. I recognized I was lucky that I was able to live in one city and work in another. Not many other industries allow that. I see how it sucks when your base closes and you're forced with choosing between several bad options.

The name of the game in the airline business these days is efficiency. I know it's not fun, but it's why we have 5am shows in LGA and moving airplanes around to reduce credit time.