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TheTriColor 11-09-2011 09:38 AM

This is NOT meant as a DPA vs ALPA question but rather an honest question.
Excuse my ignorance with this but I have not been the type to get involved with the "politics" and rules involved with ALPA, the rep's etc etc. Basically I don't really know much about anything when it comes to ALPA :o but I want to be more in the know because with contract negotiations coming up, I feel that's it's very important for my career.

That said, what is the difference between a Captain rep and an FO rep?
I mean, since I'm an FO, can I not call the Captain Rep if I have a question?
Or do I call him only if the FO rep is not available? If I CAN call the Captain rep, why differentiate between the two and why not just call them "Pilot" rep's?

Again, sorry for my ignorance but this is an honest question and one I've been thinking about the last couple days, and have not been able to find the answer to elsewhere.

Thanks for any info.

scambo1 11-09-2011 09:38 AM

FTB, thats a lousy plan B. Unless DCI pilots are on our seniority list.

Plan B. I think it would be time to hike the appalachian trail, let the house go into foreclosure so the goobermint can bail you out, collect unemployment for 99 weeks, go on foodstamps, hop on freight trains and see america, write a book about what its like to be a homeless guy, etc.

georgetg 11-09-2011 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by TheTriColor (Post 1082385)
This is NOT meant as a DPA vs ALPA question but rather an honest question.
Excuse my ignorance with this but I have not been the type to get involved with the "politics" and rules involved with ALPA, the rep's etc etc. Basically I don't really know much about anything when it comes to ALPA :o but I want to be more in the know because with contract negotiations coming up, I feel that's it's very important for my career.

That said, what is the difference between a Captain rep and an FO rep?
I mean, since I'm an FO, can I not call the Captain Rep if I have a question?
Or do I call him only if the FO rep is not available? If I CAN call the Captain rep, why differentiate between the two and why not just call them "Pilot" rep's?

Again, sorry for my ignorance but this is an honest question and one I've been thinking about the last couple days, and have not been able to find the answer to elsewhere.

Thanks for any info.

The PC term is Chairman and Vice Chairman.
The secretary used to be the FE rep...

If you have an issue, speak to someone who can help you.
The Chairman and Vice Chairman represent you equally...

Cheers
George

av8ohr 11-09-2011 10:07 AM

The AE is out

DeltaA320 11-09-2011 10:11 AM

MEM closed!

Check Essential 11-09-2011 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by TheTriColor (Post 1082385)
This is NOT meant as a DPA vs ALPA question but rather an honest question.
Excuse my ignorance with this but I have not been the type to get involved with the "politics" and rules involved with ALPA, the rep's etc etc. Basically I don't really know much about anything when it comes to ALPA :o but I want to be more in the know because with contract negotiations coming up, I feel that's it's very important for my career.

That said, what is the difference between a Captain rep and an FO rep?
I mean, since I'm an FO, can I not call the Captain Rep if I have a question?
Or do I call him only if the FO rep is not available? If I CAN call the Captain rep, why differentiate between the two and why not just call them "Pilot" rep's?

Again, sorry for my ignorance but this is an honest question and one I've been thinking about the last couple days, and have not been able to find the answer to elsewhere.

Thanks for any info.

There really is no difference.
You can call either rep if you have a question or problem.
The origin of the terms comes from the ALPA Constitution. To run for captain rep you have to be a captain. Same for F/O rep.
I imagine it was done to keep senior captains from becoming too dominant in the LECs/MECs. It was designed that way in the name of "fairness" but both are equally your rep whether you are a capt or FO.

It could be done in other ways however, the "seniority block" representation method always seems to get a lot of discussion but that has drawbacks as well. ie = The reps would always tend to be from the largest bases.

orvil 11-09-2011 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by DAL73n (Post 1082130)
Actually, I started part of this so I have no problem following up with this. All our kids are grown and out of college, my wife is currently stay at home BUT I have a military pension to cover (Survivor Benefit for the military is one of the worst deals ever). I currently have $1.2 million in coverage to make up for the pension loss and loss of my income and am currently considering the purchase of more (I have 2 years left on a couple of term policies). While I could write a dissertation on how much insurance to have and what types to get (there are a ton of articles on the web about this very topic) and finding a qualified life insurance agent is extremely tough (by the way, a life insurance agent can sell you the same policy you find on the web at esurance.com (or any of the other web sites)) it is important to review how much you need, what types (term, whole life, VUL, UL, etc) that I can't even start to cover. If you don't want to qualify then Delta's extra coverage is worthwhile until you find you can get it cheaper. Another one that most people ignore is Long Term Care - You actually have a greater probability of needing long term care before you die than any other type of insurance. Anyone 55 or older is a prime candidate because it still affordable. Remember, the average retirement age of 121 pilots was around 58 when mandatory was 60, and they expect average age to be 62.5 with mandatory at 65. Once again, lots of web resources for long term care insurance

AccuQuote or essurance will do just fine. You don't need whole life, universal life or anything else other than term insurance. They are ripoff's and rotten savings/investment vehicles. The internet has pretty much done away with all the mystery in shopping for life insurance. You only need term life insurance. You need just as much for your spouse, too. You can vary the term 10 year, 15 year, 20 year renewable.

DAL's coverage is only competitive if you have had a medical event or for some other reason have been deemed uninsurable. Otherwise, it's too expensive. This holds true to all of their other insurance offerings, too. The trick is to make your spouse the owner of the policy on your life and vice versa. This way if you die and the benefit is exercised it will be passed outside of your estate. There will be no delay and no estate taxes owed.

One benefit of the Diamond and Ruby HSA is the ability to use a portion of your tax free HSA savings to pay for your long term care insurance premiums each year. A lot of people don't know this. Most insurance agents don't know this. Call KB at DALPA and she can confirm it. This is the primary reason we selected the Diamond HSA. We wanted to set up a savings plan that will pay our LTC premiums well into retirement.

LTC is a very complicated product to understand. Lots of moving parts. This is an insurance product that must be customized to your needs and requires an experienced agent with lots of products to compare. The best resource that I have found is www.mrltc.com. It's a chat room where insurance agents hang out and ask questions of each other. A really good agent who specializes in LTC only is at SniderAdvisors.com. She sells at least 12 different companies. I only found one major company that she didn't represent. She knows her stuff. As you age, it gets more expensive. Planners used to advise LTC at age 55-60. Now, they are suggesting around age 50. Something like 60% of LTC claims are made by people under 55. That statistic should make you think.

Rant over. Carry on.

acl65pilot 11-09-2011 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by av8ohr (Post 1082402)
The AE is out

AE will be interesting to watch. Reduction of 50 in each seat on the 767 in ATL with no like increase on the 7ER in ATL. Many will probably get absorbed by the 330 growth.

More 777 and 744 reductions. Darn trip parking! :D

80ktsClamp 11-09-2011 10:30 AM

Category Vacancies Reason
ATL 765 CAPT 2 Increased Block Hours
ATL 330 CAPT 39 Increased Block Hours
ATL 7ER CAPT 25 Staffing Adjustment
ATL 320 CAPT 19 Rebasing
ATL M88 CAPT 5 Additional MD90’s
ATL 330 F/O 39 Increased Block Hours
ATL 320 F/O 25 Rebasing
LAX 73N CAPT 5 Staffing Adjustment
MSP M88 CAPT 20 Additional MD90’s
NYC 765 CAPT 4 Increased Block Hours
NYC 7ER CAPT 15 Staffing Adjustment
NYC 73N CAPT 10 Staffing Adjustment
NYC 320 CAPT 53 Rebasing
NYC 320 F/O 54 Rebasing
NYC M88 F/O 32 Base Balancing and Additional MD90’s
SEA 7ER CAPT 10 Staffing Adjustment
SLC 73N CAPT 5 Staffing Adjustment


Surpluses

ATL 777 CAPT 15 Staffing Adjustment
ATL 767 CAPT 50 Staffing Adjustment
ATL 777 F/O 10 Staffing Adjustment
ATL 767 F/O 50 Staffing Adjustment
DTW 744 CAPT 6 Staffing Adjustment
DTW 744 F/O 20 Staffing Adjustment
MEM 320 CAPT 73 Rebasing
MEM DC9 CAPT 26 Reduction in DC9 Fleet
MEM 320 F/O 85 Rebasing
MEM DC9 F/O 27 Reduction in DC9 Fleet

DelDah Capt 11-09-2011 10:31 AM

Exactly 362 vacancies and 362 displacements. Not exactly an example of wild growth....and when you consider the churn and heartaches caused by bases/categories closing and shrinking, I'd just as soon do without this AE.....I'm not sure why so many were excitedly anticipating it.


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