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Now that we have toned down the DPA/ALPA stuff, it is time to put your efforts into the only real control we have over how things get done!
Vote! Be sure to make your vote count by voting in your LEC. LAX 16 is open for a few more hours! Cant b*itch if you dont vote! |
Originally Posted by FIIGMO
(Post 1082260)
DO NOT start any false rumors about movement in SEA! I am on the edge MAN!:eek:
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1082307)
It may be the ER up there. Any rumor is just that until published, and therefore no comment is needed.
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 1082262)
I just don't see a GUM base. So.......standby for a GUM base.
I'm witchew homie. Hawaii yes, gum nah, but I like the rumor. |
Don't get your hopes up about SEA ER increasing in the right seat. I specifically asked AH why the RP positions hadn't been staffed and why the NRT flying for the RP was being staffed by ATL fo's. It was basically a non-sensical answer about wanting the keep all the RP flying in ATL because block hours change month to month and they don't want an overage in seats base/base on a month to month basis. I stated that I though that the whole reason behind the SEA ER base in the first place was to reduced the DH's for the NRT flying out of DTW and MSP and get the hours on the westcoast in order to save the Co $$. He again deferred back to the non-answer about keeping the RP hours centralized in ATL. IMHO I think that ATL simply WANTS some NRT flying and the 4th floor types pulling the strings are the deciders, despite a 72 hr trip w/20 hours of DH. So much for efficiency. But for someone who lives in the PNW and was displaced to JFK (due to the Alaska Airlines jobs for pilots program)....it chaps my a$$ everytime I see an ATL rotation starting and ending with a DH to the westcoast.
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
(Post 1082324)
Don't get your hopes up about SEA ER increasing in the right seat. I specifically asked AH why the RP positions hadn't been staffed and why the NRT flying for the RP was being staffed by ATL fo's. It was basically a non-sensical answer about wanting the keep all the RP flying in ATL because block hours change month to month and they don't want an overage in seats base/base on a month to month basis. I stated that I though that the whole reason behind the SEA ER base in the first place was to reduced the DH's for the NRT flying out of DTW and MSP and get the hours on the westcoast in order to save the Co $$. He again deferred back to the non-answer about keeping the RP hours centralized in ATL. IMHO I think that ATL simply WANTS some NRT flying and the 4th floor types pulling the strings are the deciders, despite a 72 hr trip w/20 hours of DH. So much for efficiency. But for someone who lives in the PNW and was displaced to JFK (due to the Alaska Airlines jobs for pilots program)....it chaps my a$$ everytime I see an ATL rotation starting and ending with a DH to the westcoast.
Joint venture partner Air France-KLM reported its traffic was affected by the flight attendants strike during the final three days of October. Despite this, Air France said its traffic increased an overall 5.7% and capacity grew 6.1%, leading to a 0.3 point decline in load factor of 83.9%. Air France is adding A380 service to Los Angeles and Dubai, the company announced Tuesday. Air France said it will redeploy the A380 used on the Paris-Tokyo route to Dubai starting Dec. 5. Twice daily service between Paris-Charles de Gaulle and Los Angeles will begin May 28 as part of the joint venture with Delta and Alitalia. Los Angeles will be the carrier’s third U.S. city operated by the A380, following New York and Washington, D.C. Air France said it will operate six Airbus A380s this winter from Paris-Charles de Gaulle to five destinations, including New York-JFK, Johannesburg, Montreal, Washington, D.C., and Dubai. By next summer, Air France said it will operate eight of the super jumbo jets, which can accommodate up to 516 passengers in four classes, including nine in Premiere on the main deck, 80 in Business on the upper deck, 38 in Premium Voyageur on the upper deck and 389 in Voyageur between the two decks. Expect leaves of absence to be offered, so effectively you can furlough yourself if desired, rather than commute to seventy hours of pay for six days of short call. Anyone know when management is going to show up in the lounge? There is little we can do other than voice our displeasure about the continued transfer of our work (while Delta pays Air France & DCI), but at least it would be cathartic to share our thoughts, photos of the kids with no shoes, etc ... . |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1082333)
Expect that to be fixed on this next displacement AE. Air France reported today ... guess what:It is typical with ugly bids to hold the bad news until just before the Weekend / Holiday so no one has to answer the phone.
Expect leaves of absence to be offered, so effectively you can furlough yourself if desired, rather than commute to seventy hours of pay for six days of short call. Anyone know when management is going to show up in the lounge? There is little we can do other than voice our displeasure about the continued transfer of our work (while Delta pays Air France & DCI), but at least it would be cathartic to share our thoughts, photos of the kids with no shoes, etc ... . |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1082333)
Expect that to be fixed on this next displacement AE. Air France reported today ... guess what:It is typical with ugly bids to hold the bad news until just before the Weekend / Holiday so no one has to answer the phone.
Expect leaves of absence to be offered, so effectively you can furlough yourself if desired, rather than commute to seventy hours of pay for six days of short call. Anyone know when management is going to show up in the lounge? There is little we can do other than voice our displeasure about the continued transfer of our work (while Delta pays Air France & DCI), but at least it would be cathartic to share our thoughts, photos of the kids with no shoes, etc ... . |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1082378)
I'll bet you that you're wrong as usual about the LOA's/furlough stuff.
At the 44 meeting this week our union guys said they believed that LOA's would be granted.....if you asked for one. They did not say whether they would be offered. Just FYI. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1082372)
As much as I hope you are wrong on this, and despite the rumors and rhetoric up until recently about hiring and this awesome AE that's coming in November, we have given our management the tools to fly way too much of our network with other pilot groups to be surprised when they actually do what we've allowed.
Put it this way in a format we understand (not an actual alpa resolution), WHEREAS Delta Air Lines outsources flying to Alaska Airlines, Skyteam, KLM/AF and ASA, Chautauqua, Comair, Compass, Mesaba, Pinnacle, Shuttle America, GoJet and Skywest, WHEREAS Delta Air Lines pilots will more than likely have a tenure at this company that far exceeds senior leadership and decisions made by senior leadership can have a long lasting affect on the careers of Delta Air Lines pilots, WHEREAS Delta Air Lines pilots have a fiduciary responsibility to our fellow employees and our customers to oversee the safety and quality of the Delta Air Lines insourced and outsourced product, WHEREAS it is reasonable to assume Delta Air Lines customers believe the ticket they have purchased will be flown on a Delta Air Lines aircraft crewed and managed by Delta Air Lines employees, BE IT RESOLVED, Delta Air Lines pilot crews will fly 51% of all outsourced flights held out by Delta Air Lines for compensation or hire regardless of whether those aircraft are owned and/or directly operated by Delta Air Lines. |
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