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You got a point there. Flying 1000 hours a year only averages out to 83 hours. I guess if you add in credit time, GSs and whatnot, you might be able to average 87, but that would take flying like an FA to get there.

FIIGMO

11-20-2011 06:36 PM

Somebody gonna get a time out!

Ooooohh man when 80 gets back online somebody's gonna get a time out!!!!!

Thread creep makes him mad!:D

Carl Spackler

11-20-2011 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1088572)

They know it's not true. Right now, it's all about discrediting the SWAPA contract and mischaracterizing what's in it. It's DALPA's only hope to bring in the weak TA that has undoubtedly been already promised to management.

Carl

Carl Spackler

11-20-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1088575)

Ooooohh man when 80 gets back online somebody's gonna get a time out!!!!!

Thread creep makes him mad!:D

I'm not debating one union over another. I'm discussing our upcoming Section 6 which is probably the most important topic that could ever be on a thread devoted to what's going on with Delta.

Carl

sailingfun

11-20-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1088539)

Can't you just hear sailingfun's DALPA contacts saying: "What the **** are you trying to do to us here man? We can't let this stuff out to the members until they see it in the Tentative Agreement. Now go back in there and fix this. We're not paying you that volunteer flight pay loss for nothing!"

And then...

Most of us are able to remember your previous posts and see your double speak here sailingfun. It's just so amazing that DALPA is stooping to this level of activity. The constant lowering of expectations, mischaracterization of SWAPA's contract, and purposeful omission of Air France pay makes you guys look like you are literally being funded by management.

Like I've always said, we'll have to fight DALPA just as hard as management if we are to have any shot at an industry leading contract. Darn shame.

Carl

Carl, Every post I ever made is available for you to read. Find a single post where I suggested we take less then SW.

scambo1

11-20-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1088572)

We really need a swa pilot to chime in on how their work rules enable them to work 12 days and get paid $240K on average. Or is it simpler than that?

Even the most skilled trip parkers and greenslippers have to contend with FAR limits.

Carl Spackler

11-20-2011 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1088582)

Carl, Every post I ever made is available for you to read. Find a single post where I suggested we take less then SW.

You've done far worse than that sailingfun. You've intimated that DALPA's opener won't be anywhere near SWA and it will be because it's what the PILOTS want. Classic defeatist attitude that you and DALPA are trying to get everyone to adopt before Section 6 begins.

I don't know why you do these things. All the flight pay loss in world wouldn't allow me to do what you're doing.

Carl

Carl Spackler

11-20-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1088589)

Mostly it has to do with their incredible minimum day pay and other minimum guarantees. That's what allows them to fly well under 1,000 hours per year while being paid well above 1,000 hours...while doing it all in about 12 days every month.

Great stuff.

Carl

Carl Spackler

11-20-2011 06:52 PM

Off to bed now. Got a really early get up and a very long day ahead. Hope I don't have to go through 30 pages tomorrow evening! :D

Carl

80ktsClamp

11-20-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1088575)

Ooooohh man when 80 gets back online somebody's gonna get a time out!!!!!

Thread creep makes him mad!:D

So far it's within bounds, albeit barely, with a couple exceptions which have been taken care of. :)

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