If you want to a add a little lime on your paper cut, think about how the money is distributed. Proportional to W-2's sounds eminently fair, right?

But what about the proportion of concessions?

If you think about it, we gave more than proportionately to income, so we're actually funding everyone else's profit-sharing, a little.

Then there are the Shared Rewards for performance, in which the lobsided proportion of concessions remains the same BUT the rewards are distributed on a per-capita basis. Even to the guy that left you hanging mid-push for a shift change.

A slap in the face, on top of the lime, on top of the paper cut. Are cigarette burns on our a$$es next?

 

Can you expand on that a little? Were these seasonal positions, where the company needed bodies for only a while?

 

If you figure out why let me know. Mine wasn't 4.85%...more around 4.5%

 

Add up your flight pay and flight advance. It should be 4.85% of that. Your W-2 includes things like last year's profit sharing and shared rewards on which profit sharing isn't paid.

 

I'll jump in... first off, it was a volunteer only thing. You couldn't get a temp position unless you bid for it. It was done one month at a time. A lot of commuters would leave a standing temp bid every month, because you got positive space travel from home to whatever base you were temped to, and any hotels you needed as well. Temp guys bid for trips after all the in base block-holders.

I did temp reserve several times in other bases and it was nice because I'd get positive space to the base, and a nice hotel to sit in while I waited for a trip assignment. I also got per diem from when I let home until I got back, whether I got a trip or not.

 

Heyas Sink,

The Temporary Position system worked on a monthly basis in conjunction with the Permanent Bid system. Each temp bid was good for one bid period.

To give you an idea of the time line:

Permanent Bids closed on the 5th of each month, and were awarded on the 20th. They were effective 3.5 months from the award...an award on January 20th was effective May 1st. That was the day you were FLYING your new position...all trained up and ready to go.

Temporary Bids, on the other hand, closed on the 25th of each month, effective for the bid period after next. That is, you put in a temp bid by January 25th for the March bid month, and the result would be published on the bid list that came out prior to monthly bidding March...around the 5th of February.

Looking one month ahead, the company figured out where the excesses were. You would only be awarded a temp bid if you were in a category of excess...meaning if you left for a month, they didn't need to replace you.

If you were awarded a temp bid (say you were a DTW 320 guy, and got a MSP 320 temp bid)...when you did your monthly bid, you bid in MSP, but AFTER all of the Permanent position holders (to keep it fair for the guys who were in MSP permanently).

While on a temp bid, you got positive space from home, to work, and paid hotels in the temp city. There was also a little bit of extra per diem thrown in.

You could temp from base to base, or from reserve to block (or vice versa). Some months there were no temp bids....sometimes there were quite a few.

Everyone liked it...I never once heard anyone complain about the system, and like using only seniority list instructors in the sim, it was one of the last "good deals".

Nu

 

Thanks.

Aren't you kind of helping the company staff bases marginally, and float people to cover the deepest holes, under that scenario? I'm trying to keep an open mind, but this seems at first glance to be an idea that's bad for the group in general, but only good for the few that get to do it. What am I missing?

 

Thanks Nu, reading now, after my reply to f16... have been advised new item on honeydew list requires immediate disconnect. Go figure...

 

Mine was also 4.5% based on W2.

 

Thanks Slow. I'll do that. Appreciate it.