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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1136458)

Yeah, but Clamp needs to edit the photo because his signature saying was: "...is too damn high". Sometimes the light curse word makes all the difference.

Carl

I know I'm dating myself here but here is a good take on prices that are "Too High." From Used cars:

Profanity Alert

used cars - high prices - YouTube

Scoop - My last youtube link for the night - I promise.

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1136376)

January 2010 - Delta Pilots In Category = 10,632
January 2012 - Delta Pilots In Category = 10,653

We are slowly being liquidated.

Alfa,

How many pilots did we have on property the day the merger was signed?

When the lists were put together I believe the total was 12,434

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Originally Posted by Rudder (Post 1136480)

When the lists were put together I believe the total was 12,434

Correct- That was awarded on December 8, 2008.

He said "in category" though, which seems to allude to those flying the line and not on NBC (MIL, SIC, or FUR) status.

Alfa, AMIRITE?

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Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1136450)

Snatch was way ahead of its time regarding feeding pigs. "Beware of any man who keeps pigs."

Caution - Minimal profanity.

Snatch - Brick Top warns about Pig Farmers - YouTube

Classic scene from an awesome movie.

Scoop

BrickTop was a great antagonist, but by far the best acting job and the most entertaining part was Brad Pitt.

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Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1136325)

T, how can you be pro-ALPA? With as much talent that resides in the DAL pilot pool, a cookie cutter union with such a track record doesn't make sense. Any attempt at restoring scope will be a DFR case against ALPA, they know this and as such dance around the topic. How do you justify the actions of ALPA in regards to TWA?

When I saw the MEC throw Ken Watts under the bus, the man who sacrificed nearly everything helping his fellow pilots, I knew right then and there that ALPA no longer represents average line pilots. Remember "received?" How about Lee Moak bringing a guy like Inner-stiffer into the MEC, a guy previously fired by Delta and very pro-management at NWA. He is despised in the pilot community and a complete jack-***. Pensions for national and I get 70 hours and less DC than a newhire; ALPA has just ****'d too many people off thoughout the years. No disrespect to your four stripes and years of service, but ALPA getting the boot has been a long time coming.

All I can say is that we exchange openers in about a month and a half. The donuts are causing disunity which we cannot afford. THEY are going to do the damage. Management will smell blood in the water and they know they need 50% +1... DPA had their chance and didn't get the cards that TC said they needed. Yet they soldier on. If we get creamed in this contract negotiations, they are culpable too. You can look at the history all you want, and maybe you have valid concerns, but going forward we do not need this gar-bage.

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Originally Posted by Jesse (Post 1136456)

What, too big a softball for everyone?

Kinda shocked me too.. :D

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1136502)

All I can say is that we exchange openers in about a month and a half. The donuts are causing disunity which we cannot afford. THEY are going to do the damage.

I disagree. While there are some hardcore DPA guys I think the majority of us who sent our cards in are awaiting the opener and then will decide from there who to support. I want whats best for me as well as Delta Air Lines and I frankly don't care who delivers it. I do expect substantial improvements however.

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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 1136434)

As the only DAL guy in my reserve unit, I also have seen and heard the same thing. Mil pilots want nothing to do with DAL anymore. Mil pilots who get hired only by DAL, do so in hopes of switching to FDX, UPS, and SWA. I know this personally as I have tried to do the same. I know two bubbas who left DAL for SWA, and a couple for FDX. I've never heard of anyone leaving FDX, UPS, or SWA to come to DAL.

Mil pilots on active duty (those who can get out) are making $100-120K per year. The desert meat grinder is slowly coming to an end. QOL is improving on the mil side. Right now, there is NO financial incentive for anyone to want to leave the military and come to DAL. It has taken me 5 years to make the same pay that I did on active duty. However, for me, I will take DAL QOL any day over the chair force's.

Take home pay for a 12yr 7ER is over $50K less/year than a 20 year Lt Col living in the DC area. 11.2K/mo vs approx 6K/mo. 7ER mileage may vary, but again this is TAKE HOME pay.

So after 12+ years and a $50K annual retirement, you may equal your active duty earnings....

This is why they are looking elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1136393)

Excerpted from the CVR transcript of Comair 5191. KLEX, Aug 27, 2006

I've long thought a contributory factor for that accident was the announcement the previous Thursday that the Company's flying was being put out to bid, with massive displacements and loss of income coming.