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georgetg 02-25-2012 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1141273)
FTB,

Dude got left out of the "Compass, what could have been" image?

You just didn't look closely at your avatar!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/mug.jpg

Cheers
George

Boomer 02-25-2012 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1141290)
You just didn't look closely at your avatar!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/mug.jpg

Cheers
George

You guys are cracking me up with the photoshop antics.

If I had half your crazy talent back in high school I would have made a fortune on fake IDs and custom T shirts. :D

80ktsClamp 02-25-2012 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1141297)
You guys are cracking me up with the photoshop antics.

If I had half your crazy talent back in high school I would have made a fortune on fake IDs and custom T shirts. :D

http://underthegoldengnome.files.wor...n-id.jpg?w=450

What's up, McLovin??

shiznit 02-25-2012 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1141287)
Honest question.... if these planes did come to Delta are you suggesting they wouldn't come with American pilots? If pilots did come with planes do you see Delta trimming capacity on some of the routes they were flying leading to even more overstaffing and stagnation?

I would imagine(and hope) that they would most definitely come with the pilots, just like they did with Republic, Hughes Airwest, Southern, Western, Pan Am, Northwest.

No, I think it would allow consolidation where necessary to maximize yield and expansion in others.

AMR has more pilots over 60 than under 40 (maybe 43)....

It's NOT going to happen anyway, it was more to show that DAL doesn't want to fly single aisle jets across the Atlantic, DAL doesn't have any big jets on order and that AA has a VERY large WB fleet.

Flying cuts across the ocean are reflective of yield, if money could be made be continuing them, they would.

georgetg 02-25-2012 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1141297)
You guys are cracking me up with the photoshop antics.

If I had half your crazy talent back in high school I would have made a fortune on fake IDs and custom T shirts. :D

Boomer, are you sure you're flying for OH?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/frontier_airlines.jpg

Cheers
George

sailingfun 02-26-2012 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1141221)
Check,

As to the part in red - maybe, but I think it would be more accurate to say DALPA caved vice being a co-conspirator. But sadly, the more important point is that the majority of Pilots voted yes to allow this to happen. Granted the 76 seater portion was in BK with a gun to our head.

Scoop

Actually the 76 seat portion was really pre bankruptcy when John Malone now a DPA supporter allowed the gross weight increase that permitted the E170/175 at DCI. The jets were flying for DCI before we ever filed chapter 11. They had them configured with 70 seats but anyone with two touching brain cells knew that would not last. There was no way the judge was going to make the company fly the aircraft around with a bunch of empty space once we were in chapter 11.
We should scope airframes not seats. Let the company figure out how they want to configure the airframe to maximize revenue. If they want to try an cram 80 seats in a CRJ 50 let them have it. The CRJ 700 should be the largest airframe DCI can operate. The 170/175 should have been a mainline aircraft.

Scoop 02-26-2012 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1141354)
Actually the 76 seat portion was really pre bankruptcy when John Malone now a DPA supporter allowed the gross weight increase that permitted the E170/175 at DCI. The jets were flying for DCI before we ever filed chapter 11. They had them configured with 70 seats but anyone with two touching brain cells knew that would not last. There was no way the judge was going to make the company fly the aircraft around with a bunch of empty space once we were in chapter 11.
We should scope airframes not seats. Let the company figure out how they want to configure the airframe to maximize revenue. If they want to try an cram 80 seats in a CRJ 50 let them have it. The CRJ 700 should be the largest airframe DCI can operate. The 170/175 should have been a mainline aircraft.




Sailing,

We are pretty much saying the same thing. I said that calling DALPA a "co-conspirator" was a stretch, and that I would more accurately describe the situation as them "caving-in."

You say they realized they would lose via the judge - so they did not bother to risk fighting it. This is pretty much a tactical retreat and may or may not have been the best move at the time, but if you think about it that is pretty much what it means to "cave."

I agree 100% with what I highlighted in red above and along those lines have a question: Has DALPA or ALPA looked at the cost affects of the new FTDT rules on DCI and how this might help the Delta Pilots recapute the 76 seat flying or has that ship sailed (pun intended) :).

Do you foresee us even trying to recpature 76 flying?

Thanks Scoop

BlueMoon 02-26-2012 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1141354)
AThe CRJ 700 should be the largest airframe DCI can operate. The 170/175 should have been a mainline aircraft.

Just curious, but why the E170 at mainline and not the CRJ-700 also?

Having flown both (currently on the 170/5) there is very little difference in payload, range, and speed. They both can cross the continent in one stop.

My next trip has a day where I go IAD-MSP-YVR, literally a transcon with a single stop. Legs of 3+ hours are fairly common in our schedule. Not very regional, then again North America is a region I guess.

I think you should grab the aircraft back even if you have to fly them for the rates we currently have, it would be step in the right direction.

AtlCSIP 02-26-2012 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 1141364)
Just curious, but why the E170 at mainline and not the CRJ-700 also?

Having flown both (currently on the 170/5) there is very little difference in payload, range, and speed. They both can cross the continent in one stop.

My next trip has a day where I go IAD-MSP-YVR, literally a transcon with a single stop. Legs of 3+ hours are fairly common in our schedule. Not very regional, then again North America is a region I guess.

I think you should grab the aircraft back even if you have to fly them for the rates we currently have, it would be step in the right direction.

Agree totally. I would rather fly an RJ at mainline than a C series at a regional, and if we aren't careful, we will see the C at regionals.

PilotFrog 02-26-2012 09:02 AM

There any talk about opening a 73 base in DTW?


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