The problem is that DALPA will not release the opener. We'll only see a TA to vote on later. And that's only if DALPA doesn't agree to a short term extension with a pay bump.

Carl

First of all, you have no idea what DALPA will be able to deliver, and you have even less idea what the donuts will be able to deliver. And I don't blame anybody but the membership on a weak contract. IF it is weak and it gets voted in, it is Our own fault. But the donut arguments are are all pie in the sky. Hopey changey and all that. Big talk.

"Management smells blood in the water..." (for YOUR reasons) That's rich. You really believe that gar-bage don't you?

I have a plan B homey. I have been debt free for a long time, and I have a strike fund that will last a long time. Probably better than yours. Doesn't matter though, the point of a strike is moot.. unless of course we get donuts, because as we all know, the company and the gubbamint trembles in fear at their awesomeness.

Give whoever made the questions on the recurrent cd some credit, at least they have a sense of humor. Maybe it was 80?

Sexual harassment? Well, it's okay if it's accurate. :D

Evacuation flow? Evacuate, Stop, Shutdown and Configure or something along those lines. :D

How do you know this? You gonna eat crow if it DOES get released? OR are you gonna find something else to be critical and divisive to cry about? Nevermind, I know the answer to that.

And one more thing... What if the opener that DOES get released isn't what Carl thinks is sufficient? Buuuuut, it represents the desires of the pilot group.. We all know that you think the whale should only work on sunny Wednesdays and pay $1000/hour, but what if the pilot group said.. in the surveys.. that the whale and the 7ER should pay the same? (Read banded payrates)? How are you going to then call for the head of DALPA? You might get to see the opener, but you have little idea of what goes into that opener too. So maybe the surveys SHOULD be released.. what would say if they are, and you don't have as much leverage as you think?

Selling off/parking assets and NOT replacing them is liquidation. You say we're only liquidating so we can participate in future mergers. Why? So we can liquidate some more...and call it synergy??

That of course means nothing when you lease the majority of your aircraft. But that was funny CEO spin though.

Carl

I don't know T. I can't predict a timeline for ALPA or DPA. I know this is my third section 6 with three different airlines and they are all different. If DPA gets enough cards for a vote then I will think long and hard and make a decision (which means ask the wife:)). But seriously, I don't know the answer right now.

I'm actually shocked that anyone on this forum thought DAL would do anything other then shrink once the merger was complete. Organic growth after merging 2 airlines(which was done to reduce capacity and increase pricing power) would defeat the purpose of the merger in the first place. I'm still pleasantly surprised we made it through without furloughs.

If my post came off as condescending, I apologize. I didn't mean for that, but I just don't see any upside to the donuts at this point in the game. And I am no DALPA cheerleader. I think they have served a purpose in that they made DALPA sit up and take notice, but that purpose is no longer needed.

I also respect that you have been through this process. There are many that are calling for new representation that have not, so your opinion is valuable.

I didn't take it that way...no worries.

BTW: When flying the back side of the clock and the EMHO arrives on schedule, just think of Ray LaHood. Problem fixed.