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Timbo 03-20-2012 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1155335)
Is Tsquare okay?

Is Tebow going to the Titans?


I thought Tebow was going to the...

Shaguars! the shaguar - YouTube

It may look like Austin Powers, but it's really Tebow, minus the scripture on his cheeks! :rolleyes:

Bill Lumberg 03-20-2012 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1155297)
Its not even a rumor. The company has not approached the union with any offers on scope or 717's or anything in the recent threads. The only real fact is that SWA has stated the 717 are not in their long range fleet plan and they will not renew the leases. Those expire over a period of time I think from 2017 to 2024. Phantom 717's in the desert ect.. were leased to a European startup airline and not Delta. They are gone. As I have mentioned before Delta starts the 100 seat rumor every time a contract is being discussed. I still don't think they want a two class 100 seat aircraft.

MD-80.COM, a German website, begs to differ:

RUMOR: Delta Boeing could take on 717 Fleet This article describes a recent development. Information may change so quickly. This article documents a current development. Information may change as the event progresses Rapidly. An update on my part done quickly in the evening of the 20th Of March.


There are currently serious rumors with news that Delta Air Lines in front of a "deal" to acquire the Boeing 717 fleet of AirTran / Southwest Airlines stand. This message will be aware of MD-80.com considered. Currently the news is opaque. Source should be a conference in Scottsdale. Should confirm the information, this page will be updated accordingly.



The rumors are based on a Twitter message of "business plan" : It is confirmed from the circles that Delta Air Lines Boeing 717 fleet, the whole of AirTran / Southwest Airlines will take over. Further details are currently not officially known. AirTran set a 88 Boeing 717, which will in the course of integration into the Southwest Airlines, contrary to previous reports due to inefficiency and unsuitability to be discarded as soon as possible.



MD-80.com will monitor the situation and also asks for submissions of possible, relevant messages about a possible takeover of Boeing 717 from Delta Air Lines. Thank you!



And the same in GERMAN for you:


GERÜCHT: Delta könnten Boeing 717-Flotte übernehmen Dieser Artikel beschreibt eine aktuelle Entwicklung. Die Informationen können sich deshalb rasch verändern. This article documents a current development. Information may change rapidly as the event progresses. Eine Aktualisierung erfolgt meinerseits zeitnah in den Abendstunden des 20. März.


Es existieren aktuell ernst zunehmende Gerüchte mit Meldungen, dass Delta Air Lines vor einem “Deal” über die Übernahme der Boeing 717-Flotte von AirTran/Southwest Airlines stehen. Diese Meldung wird bewusst von MD-80.com berücksichtigt. Aktuell ist die Nachrichtenlage undurchsichtig. Quelle soll eine Konferenz in Scottsdale sein. Sollten sich Informationen bestätigen, wird diese Seite entsprechend aktualisiert.



Die Gerüchte beziehen sich auf eine Twitter-Meldung von „Planebusiness”: es wird aus deren Kreisen bestätigt, dass Delta Air Lines die gesamte Boeing 717-Flotte von AirTran/Southwest Airlines übernehmen werden. Weitere Details sind aktuell offiziell nicht bekannt. AirTran setzen 88 Boeing 717 ein, die im Zuge der Integration in die Southwest Airlines entgegen früherer Meldungen aufgrund von Unwirtschaftlichkeit und Nichteignung so schnell wie möglich ausgemustert werden sollen.



MD-80.com werden die Situation beobachten und bittet auch um Zusendungen von möglichen, relevanten Meldungen über eine mögliche Übernahme von Boeing 717 seitens der Delta Air Lines. Vielen Dank!



What does all that mean? YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE BANK. (just not a bank in Europe, especially Greece)

Bucking Bar 03-20-2012 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1155340)
Bar,

The numbers were very close and the MD-95 was looking real good and was the early favorite, then lo and behold at the last minute Boeing got the deal. The original Boeing's could not stay in the CG envelope that the Navy requested. The Boeing answer that the Navy agreed to - I kid you not, 1500lbs of permanent ballast in the ass of the first C-40's.

Scoop

Did they try three cooks and a bug juice dispenser? With a normal crew, three flight attendants aft of First Class, I can't say I've ever seen a 737 nose heavy.

LeineLodge 03-20-2012 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1155136)
that doesnt work anymore, they changed it to were its not possible. At least on an iphone or ipad it wont.

Haven't DH'd of commuted in a LONG time, so you're probably right.

I'm not in the "commuting is a choice" camp by any means, but living in base has significantly reduced my idle time spent in the back of airplanes :D

forgot to bid 03-20-2012 08:42 PM

About the 717, the "one man's trash is another man's treasure" airplane.

Lets say we do add 717s and they are a single category with the 88. I could see everyone trained, but where would they primarily fly? To me, the DC9 has found a place in ATL type flying so maybe there. I'd assume DTW as well.

But what about NYC? Could we take back the slot swap from DCI?

johnso29 03-20-2012 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1155183)
yes, i used it all the time before but it doesnt work the same anymore. It now goes into a login pop up as soon as you connect to the signal and you cant go to an address bar unless you pay. Its lame :cool:

Try going through journey or goodreader. I just accessed it on my iPad on 3/16. That's the last time I tried.

bluejuice71 03-20-2012 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1155243)
No - you cannot fly on any day that you used your APD on. You can however drop a 4 day trip by using your APD on only day 1 of the trip - the whole trip will drop and you can WS GS etc on days 2-4.

Reserve is obviously day by day.

Scoop

Thank you very much for the good info Scoop!

forgot to bid 03-20-2012 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1155347)
I thought Tebow was going to the...

Shaguars! the shaguar - YouTube

It may look like Austin Powers, but it's really Tebow, minus the scripture on his cheeks! :rolleyes:

He could go to the Redskins and disappear like everyone else that enters that black hole.

He could go to the Bears. They never had a QB and their coach doesn't believe in QBs, so he's an improvement. Newk?

About Seattle? Do they play on tv?

Jacksonville, man no offense to anyone who loves Jax, but wow, DEN to JAX would be painful. Although he'd be home. But he was home schooled, so is that really home?

Atlanta? He could come here and learn what it's like not to win.

Carolina? Well, they already have a Peyton/Tebow mix at QB. War Cam Eagle.

Cleveland! Because it would take an act of God to make that place relevant and sell jerseys, and so here's their chance!

He could go to Denver? Oh right. Well, Elway's got to be so excited. Peyton!? Get rid of the Tebow thing! Crowd loves him again... until Peyton gets injured and is out. Where's Tebow? You SOB!

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forgot to bid 03-20-2012 08:58 PM

So we gettin' these 717s or not?

How about we take them and rename them the MD-95s. Just for fun.

Carl Spackler 03-20-2012 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1150055)
You have to attempt to view it from a management standpoint. They have spent five years in a reeducation campaign with the other employees that Delta will only be able to pay industry standard wages. They are correct in their cost assumptions to an extent. This is perhaps the most brutal industry around on companies that let costs get out of line.

A pilot contract that is viewed as above the abstract they have created with the other employees will lead to big problems. After our 2001 contract they had to follow up with a 17 percent raise to the mechanics when things started to get ugly there.

I suspect they will be willing to put forth a contract with some impressive numbers in the out years. They will not put out anything near what I or most pilots expect in the short term. The collapse of talks at UAL and the 1113 action at AMR will leave the company thinking and serious raises for the pilots will put their pilot costs way to high and that they will have other costs with non union employee fallout. The package they put forth will be back loaded while the package we want and deserve will have to be front loaded. I see the gap between the two as far to big to be bridged before we go to the NBM. The NMB has made it clear we can expect a very long process if we go that route.

Again this is going to be a long difficult contract with a lot of choices that have to be made. Don't start spending raises now. They may not come for 5 years.

You keep saying this sailingfun despite the FACT that their PowerPoint said no such thing. And people who were in the room said the NMB stated no such thing. Please post ANY evidence to back up what you claim. My evidence is the NMB's PowerPoint and the words of my reps. What's your evidence?

Carl


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