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hoserpilot 04-20-2012 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1172427)
You never have to answer the phone. Ever ever ever.

You are obligated to acknowledge either by phone or on the computer at certain times. :) Short call is one of them, and long call within a reasonable time period is another. They tend to call back if you don't. You don't have to answer then, either. Ever ever ever.

There has been a few times where scheduling called to advise of a trip or short call and they did not leave a message. When asked about it they claim ignorance. Just use the ATL area code as your cue to check your schedule. Usually when that happens I'll get a second call informing me that I need to acknowledge something. That's when I tell them it would be nice to leave a voicemail as I don't answer anonymous or unidentified callers. When they do call from the normal number I get imperial death march ringtone!!!

forgot to bid 04-20-2012 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1172476)
There has been a few times where scheduling called to advise of a trip or short call and they did not leave a message. When asked about it they claim ignorance. Just use the ATL area code as your cue to check your schedule. Usually when that happens I'll get a second call informing me that I need to acknowledge something. That's when I tell them it would be nice to leave a voicemail as I don't answer anonymous or unidentified callers. When they do call from the normal number I get imperial death march ringtone!!!

or they call you before your late afternoon sc starts to say you have a trip and then..... they hang up half way through. Curious, you check your schedule to see you have one of those hour to show just get there when you can trips. This happens from time to time and its happened to a buddy a few times so I just create a paper trail with DALPA.

iaflyer 04-20-2012 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1172471)
Do they hire expats?

They hire Direct entry captains - 10K a month (USD) to start. The "benefits" you're looking for aren't listed, but lots of things are cheap over there. ;)

Pilot Story - A320 DEC Captain - PILOT CAREER CENTRE

scambo1 04-20-2012 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1172426)
Anyone else suspect the second one from the left has a big ole swinging penis? Just got back from Thailand so maybe I'm still a bit paranoid... :o

Incidentally, was on a AirAsia flight within Thailand. Every single FA was young and smoking hot.


Duuuuuuude;

Here I am thinking Ferd's scraps are better than my meal and you drop the frikkin P word


Buzzkill


no offense Buzz. Or is that like saying Buzz sic him?

sailingfun 04-20-2012 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1172371)
Not going to argue with you(too much). I know that what you state is the way things normally happen, and I agree that having to call them the day prior is silly, but you would lose that bet about it not being in the contract. Some of he schedulers try to enforce it, most don't. Seems silly to have to waste their time with a phone call at all. We should be able just send them some sort of electronic message through ICrew.

Section 23.9.B.2 Exception

a) At the time the pilot is notified of his conversion to short call, the pilot will advise Crew Scheduling that he will be:
i. traveling to his base, and
ii. unavailable for contact during the first two hours of the short call

...and now I see that newk beat me to it

Smart schedulers recognize that its to their advantage to have you take the commute in option. Your now obligated by the contract to be available 2 hours after your shortcall start. If they were to need you right away your on the hook. If you don't take the option then availability is defined by several factors but your not required to be there in two hours contractually.

forgot to bid 04-20-2012 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1172459)
There are only two numbers that they will call you from when you are on sc and they need you. I'll look at my phone and send them to ya. Just program those in to your phone.

Yes, and I have saved them with a special ring tone, the piano riff one on the iphone. If you want to figure out who ftb is in the crewroom, play that ring tone.

The guy you see in the fetal position, sweating perfusely, tears flowing, possibly grabbing his left arm while sucking his thumb with a "WTH!?!? Why would you ever use that as a ringtone!!!?" look.

The other day, some folks at the car dealership where I went to pick up a part were very confused by the situation developing in their waiting room when some woman got a phone call and decided to let her phone ring and ring and ring.

scambo1 04-20-2012 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1172492)
Smart schedulers recognize that its to their advantage to have you take the commute in option. Your now obligated by the contract to be available 2 hours after your shortcall start. If they were to need you right away your on the hook. If you don't take the option then availability is defined by several factors but your not required to be there in two hours contractually.

Absolutely true. The commute option is defined as 2 hours commute (then immediatly available).

Normal S/C response time (commute option not used) is "readily" or "promptly" available...generally accepted as you have your phone and you'll get there as soon as you can (generally accepted as two hours, but not in stone).

Now, jailhouse lawyer me thinks like this: If I use the 2 hr commute, when my commute flight lands, I turn on my phone. If there are no messages, I am right back to the promptly available and I go to my hotel.

My experience has been that if I use the 2 hr commute option, scheds generally won't release me early. I play it by my commute flights and my fleets departure times (I don't have a sexy voice). For example I dont try to get released early unless there is a flight home that leaves early. And I dont sweat the release (too hard) if there are no departures or sign ins within a reasonable boundary of time around my s/c release time ie: if my flt home leaves 1/2 hr before my s/c release time I just get on it. (This probably doesn't work at all domestically because there are a constant departures).

That said, the shortest I've been "shortcalled" on the 777 is about 6 hours before departure. It was my only callout on the plane in 5+ years. (caveat: I am on reserve about 4-6 months a year due to inability to build a line) If I could get a schedule year round without fail, I would never sit reserve as a commuter.

Timbo 04-20-2012 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1172493)
Yes, and I have saved them with a special ring tone, the piano riff one on the iphone. If you want to figure out who ftb is in the crewroom, play that ring tone.

The guy you see in the fetal position, sweating perfusely, tears flowing, possibly grabbing his left arm while sucking his thumb with a "WTH!?!? Why would you ever use that as a ringtone!!!?" look.

The other day, some folks at the car dealership where I went to pick up a part were very confused by the situation developing in their waiting room when some woman got a phone call and decided to let her phone ring and ring and ring.


Here's the song I had as a ringtone on my old cell ph. when I was on reserve: Five For Fighting - Superman (Lyrics) - YouTube

One day I'm in the ATL Domestic lounge, and SD comes in for one of those "Lounge Briefings", so of course, two minutes into his speal, sceds calls me.

I let it ring long enough to get through the first line, which got a pretty good laugh from the crowd of other short call commuters in the black chairs. :D

Like I tell my 4 kids when they start whining, "It's not easy to be me, but it really sucks to be YOU! Now get dressed, because you ARE going to school today!"

forgot to bid 04-20-2012 04:58 AM

Timbo... I have a feeling youre a fun guy to fly with! :D



thats a compliment. with sarcasm these days i know its hard to tell.

forgot to bid 04-20-2012 05:00 AM

my legs hurt!!!!!!!!!

seat 4a on a crj200. just closing the door.


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