Delta Hiring News
06-13-2013, 06:52 AM
#371
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 69
Hello Everyone,
A question for Delta people from an outsider who has been trying to get hired since 2007 (which was when I was first minimally competitive). I work for a 'national' airline and have a couple thousand hours on the MD-80. I've always been convinced Delta is where I would like to retire. However, from the perspective of many of the 30 to 40 year old captains that I fly with, who are already in the left seat making around 140k a year here; what is your best guess at the upgrade time on the most junior equipment and base would be for an early 2014 new hire.
Thanks to all in advance for any insight, if I ever figure out how to land the MD-80, I'll be the first to let everyone know...
-Lucky
A question for Delta people from an outsider who has been trying to get hired since 2007 (which was when I was first minimally competitive). I work for a 'national' airline and have a couple thousand hours on the MD-80. I've always been convinced Delta is where I would like to retire. However, from the perspective of many of the 30 to 40 year old captains that I fly with, who are already in the left seat making around 140k a year here; what is your best guess at the upgrade time on the most junior equipment and base would be for an early 2014 new hire.
Thanks to all in advance for any insight, if I ever figure out how to land the MD-80, I'll be the first to let everyone know...
-Lucky
06-13-2013, 07:38 AM
#372
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
Originally Posted by Lucky Pierre007
Hello Everyone,
A question for Delta people from an outsider who has been trying to get hired since 2007 (which was when I was first minimally competitive). I work for a 'national' airline and have a couple thousand hours on the MD-80. I've always been convinced Delta is where I would like to retire. However, from the perspective of many of the 30 to 40 year old captains that I fly with, who are already in the left seat making around 140k a year here; what is your best guess at the upgrade time on the most junior equipment and base would be for an early 2014 new hire.
Thanks to all in advance for any insight, if I ever figure out how to land the MD-80, I'll be the first to let everyone know...
-Lucky
A question for Delta people from an outsider who has been trying to get hired since 2007 (which was when I was first minimally competitive). I work for a 'national' airline and have a couple thousand hours on the MD-80. I've always been convinced Delta is where I would like to retire. However, from the perspective of many of the 30 to 40 year old captains that I fly with, who are already in the left seat making around 140k a year here; what is your best guess at the upgrade time on the most junior equipment and base would be for an early 2014 new hire.
Thanks to all in advance for any insight, if I ever figure out how to land the MD-80, I'll be the first to let everyone know...
-Lucky
06-13-2013, 09:00 AM
#373
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Originally Posted by tsquare
Probably the 717 in either ATL or DTW. Maybe the M88 in NYC. Upgrades of course are gonna be dependent on retirements and or growth (don't the rest of you guys laugh too hard on THAT), but NY and DTW are the most junior bases. I am premerger DAL and one of my newhire classmates bid captain on the 717 and is not in the top 10. I am around 4600 of 11,000 pilots. I think that is an anomaly though because of the training and all that, the guys that bid it are thinking of taking the summer off. But we have a lot of retirements coming down the pike, so in the next few years there should be pretty good movement even if there is little growth. I know that doesn't answer your question completely, but I hope it helps.
Am I out on a limb there?
06-13-2013, 09:10 AM
#374
Looking for a laugh
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,099
Originally Posted by scambo1
I'll slap a guestimate year range on it assuming retirements and no growth, a 2013 hire would likely be plug capt on the 717 in 2019-2020.
Am I out on a limb there?
Am I out on a limb there?
I don't think so. We are gonna retire over half the list in the next 15-20 years. Barring, well everything that's happened in the last 10, from happening again, I would say those hired in the front of this wave will do quite well in terms of seat progression.
06-13-2013, 02:19 PM
#375
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: Driving to work & Looking Left @ the Surf!!
Posts: 727
Originally Posted by scambo1
I'll slap a guestimate year range on it assuming retirements and no growth, a 2013 hire would likely be plug capt on the 717 in 2019-2020.
Am I out on a limb there?
Am I out on a limb there?
When can I hold a senior ER line? 2025? I've slid back on EVERY AE since I started on the ER.
Baja.
06-13-2013, 03:24 PM
#376
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,943
Originally Posted by Going2Baja
A 6 yr upgrade? We're currently @ 15+. Things are going to turn around that quickly? I sure hope so.
When can I hold a senior ER line? 2025? I've slid back on EVERY AE since I started on the ER.
Baja.
When can I hold a senior ER line? 2025? I've slid back on EVERY AE since I started on the ER.
Baja.
Look no further than the junior captain at SWA vs. the estimate for the last SWA pilot hired, or the junior captain at US Airways vs. the 20+ year upgrades at AA/US through the 90s until last year.
06-13-2013, 06:46 PM
#377
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A320
Posts: 1,347
Originally Posted by contrails
The past is no indication of future movement, for better or for worse.
Look no further than the junior captain at SWA vs. the estimate for the last SWA pilot hired, or the junior captain at US Airways vs. the 20+ year upgrades at AA/US through the 90s until last year.
Look no further than the junior captain at SWA vs. the estimate for the last SWA pilot hired, or the junior captain at US Airways vs. the 20+ year upgrades at AA/US through the 90s until last year.
06-13-2013, 06:51 PM
#378
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Originally Posted by Lucky Pierre007
Hello Everyone,
A question for Delta people from an outsider who has been trying to get hired since 2007 (which was when I was first minimally competitive). I work for a 'national' airline and have a couple thousand hours on the MD-80. I've always been convinced Delta is where I would like to retire. However, from the perspective of many of the 30 to 40 year old captains that I fly with, who are already in the left seat making around 140k a year here; what is your best guess at the upgrade time on the most junior equipment and base would be for an early 2014 new hire.
Thanks to all in advance for any insight, if I ever figure out how to land the MD-80, I'll be the first to let everyone know...
-Lucky
A question for Delta people from an outsider who has been trying to get hired since 2007 (which was when I was first minimally competitive). I work for a 'national' airline and have a couple thousand hours on the MD-80. I've always been convinced Delta is where I would like to retire. However, from the perspective of many of the 30 to 40 year old captains that I fly with, who are already in the left seat making around 140k a year here; what is your best guess at the upgrade time on the most junior equipment and base would be for an early 2014 new hire.
Thanks to all in advance for any insight, if I ever figure out how to land the MD-80, I'll be the first to let everyone know...
-Lucky
As an early 2014 hire and bidding captain at the first possible time in any base, you are probably looking at 2021-2023. So, at most around 9 possibly 10 years (if you assume 11500 pilots currently which is probably closer than 11000). As others said, probably NYC M88 or DTW 717 will be junior categories.
Denny
Last edited by Denny Crane; 06-13-2013 at 06:59 PM. Reason: Trying to get my numbers "more right!"
06-13-2013, 10:44 PM
#379
Doesn't Get Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,598
Originally Posted by scambo1
I'll slap a guestimate year range on it assuming retirements and no growth, a 2013 hire would likely be plug capt on the 717 in 2019-2020.
Am I out on a limb there?
Am I out on a limb there?
06-14-2013, 07:30 AM
#380
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Joined APC: Jun 2005
Position: 787 FO
Posts: 792
Somebody like that who gets hired in 2014 and wants NYC will see virtually no time on reserve as an FO and probably upgrade on the 88 within 5 years.
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