Delta Hiring News
06-14-2013, 07:39 AM
#381
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
From a cursory check (there could be someone more junior somewhere), junior captain is is around 8150. Assuming 11000 pilots and no growth or shrinkage, that's about 2850 from the bottom. Thru Dec. 2020 we have 2327 age 65 retirements.
As an early 2014 hire and bidding captain at the first possible time in any base, you are probably looking at 2021-2023. So, at most around 9 possibly 10 years (if you assume 11500 pilots currently which is probably closer than 11000). As others said, probably NYC M88 or DTW 717 will be junior categories.
Denny
As an early 2014 hire and bidding captain at the first possible time in any base, you are probably looking at 2021-2023. So, at most around 9 possibly 10 years (if you assume 11500 pilots currently which is probably closer than 11000). As others said, probably NYC M88 or DTW 717 will be junior categories.
Denny
06-14-2013, 03:06 PM
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Probably very few widebody FO's, 50% or better in category, will bid narrowbody reserve Capt. That might help the race to the left seat if that is the ultimate goal.
5-6 legs a day for narrowbody CA flying into the hubs...or 1 leg to (fill in blank) difference in pay is probably less than $1K a month
5-6 legs a day for narrowbody CA flying into the hubs...or 1 leg to (fill in blank) difference in pay is probably less than $1K a month
06-14-2013, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
Assuming everyone retires at 65, which won't happen. Use 63 as an average and subtract 2 years from that. Add in just a little growth and you'll be looking at another 2 years or roughly 2017/18, IMO.
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06-14-2013, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja
A 6 yr upgrade? We're currently @ 15+. Things are going to turn around that quickly? I sure hope so.
When can I hold a senior ER line? 2025? I've slid back on EVERY AE since I started on the ER.
Baja.
When can I hold a senior ER line? 2025? I've slid back on EVERY AE since I started on the ER.
Baja.
06-14-2013, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
Probably very few widebody FO's, 50% or better in category, will bid narrowbody reserve Capt. That might help the race to the left seat if that is the ultimate goal.
5-6 legs a day for narrowbody CA flying into the hubs...or 1 leg to (fill in blank) difference in pay is probably less than $1K a month
5-6 legs a day for narrowbody CA flying into the hubs...or 1 leg to (fill in blank) difference in pay is probably less than $1K a month
06-14-2013, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Not to mention that when there's hiring/advancement going on, guys bypass far more than when things are stagnant. When there's no movement we tend to grab whatever chairs we can. Hiring, significant retirements and even a little bit of growth will make magic happen. We may even see some pilots getting Captain seats "out of seniority"
06-15-2013, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Avgwhitemale
I think this will definately happen. Sr FOs lounging on wb's will get jumped by jr guys bidding nb capt seats. By the time these sr FOs upgrade to their wb capt seat, they will be in their mid-late 50s and relatively close to retirement. I think....
06-15-2013, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Anyone think this displacement bid has Delta set up to not hire until late 2014?
Possible delays in 717 deliveries (already slipping month or two for in-service dates according to crew resources)
Not filling all 717 vacancies on last bid and none on this bid.
Only 131 retirements between now and 31 Dec 2014
March predicted to be busiest month in 2014 domestically. Meaning they are currently manned for busiest month of year (July CR news letter)
March 2013 bid was supposed to be last displacement bid but they were wrong June AE was too. (July CR news letter)
Not back filling Capt position on June AE
This bid assured proper manning for peak flying of 2014 (July CR news letter)
Hiring is not authorized (July CR news letter)
We have a surplus of pilots system wide and we have to utilize our existing pilot staffing. (July CR news letter)
Domestic block hours continue to decline year over year (June CR news letter)
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