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09-05-2014, 07:04 PM
#5381
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Position: Fairly local
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Tickets and UPT busts...
I got an email address from airlineapps and asked these two exact questions last November:
Their answer:
FWIW, I asked the same questions of United and here's how they answered:
Finally, FWIW, I interviewed with DAL in late March and should be done with IOE next week. The interview started with, "wow, you have a lot of tickets." They were all over 25 years old so they were pretty simple to explain. They never asked me a question about the UPT busts. The good news is neither "yes" on the app kept me from getting an interview; they told us in Indoc they don't computer-eliminate people for marking "yes" on tickets or busts or anything else for that matter. Also good news is I didn't hide anything so I don't give a damn what shows up on a background check or any other check...it's all listed on my app and they were cool with it all.
I don't argue with anyone's definition of what is or isn't a checkride, what will show up on a driving history report or whatever, but Yo No Se is right:
The only thing I would add is you may not be given a chance to clarify.
Dear Delta Airlines recruiting, I have two questions regarding the Delta Airlines addendum to the Airlineapps.com application.
1. Reference the item asking, "Have you ever been convicted of any felony, misdemeanor, infraction, offense or other violation of any law?" I’ve gotten traffic tickets, which I listed in the main body of the application in the “My Driving Record - Infractions” section. Should I also list these infractions on the addendum?
2. Reference the item asking, “Have you ever failed any proficiency check, FAA check ride, or line check?” I failed two student checkrides in USAF Undergraduate Pilot training. Should I annotate those on the addendum?
1. Reference the item asking, "Have you ever been convicted of any felony, misdemeanor, infraction, offense or other violation of any law?" I’ve gotten traffic tickets, which I listed in the main body of the application in the “My Driving Record - Infractions” section. Should I also list these infractions on the addendum?
2. Reference the item asking, “Have you ever failed any proficiency check, FAA check ride, or line check?” I failed two student checkrides in USAF Undergraduate Pilot training. Should I annotate those on the addendum?
Their answer:
The answer is yes to both questions. We realize the one question is repetitive but we do require it to be completed.
Thanks for your interest in a pilot career at Delta!
The Delta Pilot Selection Team
Thanks for your interest in a pilot career at Delta!
The Delta Pilot Selection Team
#1 - no, do not include traffic tickets if you already listed them in the main body of the application.
#2 - yes, please annotate.
Thanks,
Bill
Bill Kennedy / Charlie Venema
#2 - yes, please annotate.
Thanks,
Bill
Bill Kennedy / Charlie Venema
I don't argue with anyone's definition of what is or isn't a checkride, what will show up on a driving history report or whatever, but Yo No Se is right:
...the only opinions that matters are the folks on the interview panel who are doing the scoring. If you clarify you should be good. If you don't clarify and your panel happens to see it differently, you may find yourself in a jam.
Last edited by Hrkdrivr; 09-05-2014 at 07:41 PM.
09-05-2014, 08:58 PM
#5382
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
Originally Posted by MikeF16
UPT does not give check rides, period. To get a legal check ride, you need a legal examiner, the pilots in check flight are not SEFEs thus you are not getting a check ride. It is black and white, no examiner = no check ride, and I wouldn't report a UPT check ride bust, nor would I ask about it.
If you busted a check ride in UPT, you busted a check ride. Report it.
Mike, you're a new hire. You wouldn't have the option to ask about it.
Guys, be honest. Delta places a priority on honesty. Don't dive into the grey. Mess up, fess up.
09-05-2014, 09:02 PM
#5383
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
Originally Posted by MikeF16
Suweeeeeeeet.
Congrats on the invite! Don't eff it up.
Congrats on the invite! Don't eff it up.
You were nervous. You got the job. How 'bout you pay it forward a little instead of being the new sage on the block. Honestly, you're making me sorry I ever gave you my time or insight.
How 'bout you just buck up, get through indoc and train.
Last edited by buzzpat; 09-05-2014 at 09:15 PM. Reason: Douche.
09-05-2014, 09:20 PM
#5385
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 322
Originally Posted by Simms41
This is bad advice. I selected no (CJO received). Your driving tickets are listed elsewhere. They will ask about your tickets in the interview and every question on the addendum as well.
It seems pretty harsh to ask if you have a felony and a violation of the law in the same question since these violations couldn't be more different.
09-05-2014, 09:31 PM
#5386
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 7ERB
Posts: 2,039
Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
I got an email address from airlineapps and asked these two exact questions last November:
Their answer:
FWIW, I asked the same questions of United and here's how they answered:
Finally, FWIW, I interviewed with DAL in late March and should be done with IOE next week. The interview started with, "wow, you have a lot of tickets." They were all over 25 years old so they were pretty simple to explain. They never asked me a question about the UPT busts. The good news is neither "yes" on the app kept me from getting an interview; they told us in Indoc they don't computer-eliminate people for marking "yes" on tickets or busts or anything else for that matter. Also good news is I didn't hide anything so I don't give a damn what shows up on a background check or any other check...it's all listed on my app and they were cool with it all.
I don't argue with anyone's definition of what is or isn't a checkride, what will show up on a driving history report or whatever, but Yo No Se is right:
The only thing I would add is you may not be given a chance to clarify.
Their answer:
FWIW, I asked the same questions of United and here's how they answered:
Finally, FWIW, I interviewed with DAL in late March and should be done with IOE next week. The interview started with, "wow, you have a lot of tickets." They were all over 25 years old so they were pretty simple to explain. They never asked me a question about the UPT busts. The good news is neither "yes" on the app kept me from getting an interview; they told us in Indoc they don't computer-eliminate people for marking "yes" on tickets or busts or anything else for that matter. Also good news is I didn't hide anything so I don't give a damn what shows up on a background check or any other check...it's all listed on my app and they were cool with it all.
I don't argue with anyone's definition of what is or isn't a checkride, what will show up on a driving history report or whatever, but Yo No Se is right:
The only thing I would add is you may not be given a chance to clarify.
Congrats on 717!
TEN
09-06-2014, 12:06 AM
#5387
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Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: Fairly local
Posts: 1,458
Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
Excellent Intel. Worth a note to any Delta applicant Hrkdrivr dispelled any rumors of Delta not hiring pilots that spell Delta Air Lines-->"Delta Airlines".
Congrats on 717!
TEN
Congrats on 717!
TEN
Anyway, thanks Ten!
09-06-2014, 12:22 AM
#5388
new hire
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: 73nb
Posts: 37
Originally Posted by bpvlbv
Here is a tip for those getting invitations to interview. May not work for everyone but did for me. I received my invitation email on a Friday, 25 July. When I called them, I was given a date of 1 Oct which seemed to be the norm. I asked if there was a Standby list that I could be added to in case someone dropped out or cancelled and told them that that I would like an interview as early as possible. I was called the following Thursday, told there was a cancellation on Monday 4 Aug, and was asked if I would be interested in coming in for the interview.
I am not sure if a standby list actually exists or if the person I set my interview date with just remembered that I wanted to come in ASAP. It was a rough 4 days getting everything in line for the interview, but the outcome was very positive. I received a CJO and was called 2 weeks later with an Indoc date.
I was invited to interview on 25 July and will be starting indoc on Monday. Bumped me up the seniority list at least 200 from where I would have been otherwise. Give it a shot guys. It couldn't hurt.
I am not sure if a standby list actually exists or if the person I set my interview date with just remembered that I wanted to come in ASAP. It was a rough 4 days getting everything in line for the interview, but the outcome was very positive. I received a CJO and was called 2 weeks later with an Indoc date.
I was invited to interview on 25 July and will be starting indoc on Monday. Bumped me up the seniority list at least 200 from where I would have been otherwise. Give it a shot guys. It couldn't hurt.
09-06-2014, 12:33 AM
#5389
new hire
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: 73nb
Posts: 37
Originally Posted by Poncef15c
Got the DAL interview invite today. 2 months was earliest interview date available. I think that's normal.
My quals:
3200 Total time, all Mil F15 and T-38
IP/FE (1600hrs)
Masters
Excited, thankful and anxious!
My quals:
3200 Total time, all Mil F15 and T-38
IP/FE (1600hrs)
Masters
Excited, thankful and anxious!
09-06-2014, 07:33 AM
#5390
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 420
Originally Posted by buzzpat
Dude, I remember chatting with you prior to your interview. You're welcome, btw. Never heard a word from you after the fact. Not cool.
You were nervous. You got the job. How 'bout you pay it forward a little instead of being the new sage on the block. Honestly, you're making me sorry I ever gave you my time or insight.
How 'bout you just buck up, get through indoc and train.
You were nervous. You got the job. How 'bout you pay it forward a little instead of being the new sage on the block. Honestly, you're making me sorry I ever gave you my time or insight.
How 'bout you just buck up, get through indoc and train.
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