Originally Posted by sailingfun

Delta has been doing it for years also. The difference is however no other airline has the type of operation Delta does on the 757/757-300/767/767er. We have 4 different airframes with at least 10 different sub fleets. We fly the aircraft truly world wide. The only continent we miss is Australia. A new hire may find himself called out to fly a 757 to Bogata on his first trip. His return leg may be in a 757 with a different cockpit setup. The next day he might be flying a 767-300er to Amsterdam and then on to Bombay. One might be a DAL 767 and the next a former Gulfair jet. More differences. Some may have GPS and some not. When he gets back from BOM he might go to Moscow or get a see the Pacific trip to places like Saipan, Guam, Hong Kong ect. Back from that he might get a 8 day trip to Africa.
As I mentioned Delta has had many new hires on the 767. It has worked but that does not mean it's without challenges. There have been issues and the preference would be not to put new hires in that seat but if unbid the seats will get filled. Looks like at the moment 120 nre hires will be trained on the 767er.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

He understands the Delta system. He knows how to work a ACARS. He knows all the required company reports. He is familiar with how Delta sets up their manuals. He understands Delta op specs. He has has been in and out of most domestic airports. Checklist and approach procedures are similar between fleets ect..
My second IOE was a cakewalk compared to my first. All I had to do was know the aircraft. Much less to study.

Originally Posted by Sink r8

Let's face it, we all have a vested interested in newhires succeeding on the ER, since they're unfilled positions. I think Captains will have to step up, and help everyone get up to speed, especially if the other F/O isn't experienced.

It's nothing more than NB Captains do with the constant stream of newhires, I suppose.

Originally Posted by RockyBoy

They will have slots available in SLC and LAX for guys in class before long. What is crazy is that in the next couple bids we will see 7 year upgrades on the 88 or 717 in NYC.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Ok then this brings the elephant in the room, how is a military pilot more qualified for this with 0 Part 121 time compared to a guy in the DCI system has been in/out of the NYC and ATL markets, done the shuttle, and done all those things listed (IOE, acars, etc) at a DCI regional.

It still all boils down to the individual. If there were openings, newhires could and would go to the 777. Continental was doing it not too long ago before the merger. It is more work but IMO it's not a safety thing.

Originally Posted by Flycameron

For a potential new hire waiting for an interview one day I guess I could use some extra reading material while I wait. What study material do you recommend for those that could potentially be given the ER? Might as well make good use of my time until then.

Originally Posted by waldo135

OK, I'll bite. I start Indoc soon and am a newly retired mil pilot. I have zero 121 (or any other civil) experience. I DO, however, have extensive experience crossing the ocean (all of them) with ACARS and CPDLC. I have flown into the busiest airports in the world and to every continent except Antartica. I find it very condescending when people assume that just because someone is a 'newhire' or a military pilot just entering the commercial world that they are somehow inept or dangerous.