And considering the years there was no hiring at all, its the equivalent of 3 year upgrades or less, and we will likely see it settle to that level for plug positions.

 

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That's where I would start.

 

United guys fly the 767-400 under the same category, too.

 

I'm complete civilian side and completely agree with you. I have many friends in the military that have crossed the ocean lots. They know all about that and I know nothing about it. I am very used to 121 ops and know much about that aspect.

It all boils down to this, we are all pilots and most of us, through good training, should be able to figure it out. Congrats on getting hired by Delta. I hope to join the ranks one day soon.

 

I was hired directly to ER, displaced twice to the 737 then the 88. The easiest job by far was flying the ER. We as pilots don't like to think that we are at all indispensable but the truth is that to a degree we are. There is a reason the ER is senior and it's not the pay. New hires at Delta are highly qualified and experienced pilots who are very capable of doing that job.

 

There is less new stuff for 121 guys to learn so the transition is probably a little easier but military guys generally have the aptitude to get up to speed quickly. After a few months you'd be hard pressed to tell what someone's background is.

Delta might have the most mature screening and training program in the world. Anyone who makes it to the line is qualified to do the job. New hires to the ER is no less safe than new hires to the MD-88 no matter where they came from.

 

Concur 100%. Either way the new-hire is going to have a steep learning curve. In my humble opinion, the ER presents a much more "Gentlemen" like learning pace, with one 9+ hour leg/day with an extra FO, than up and down the east coast 4-5 times per day with no time to discuss much besides the next "slam-dunk" arrival.

Both airframes have unique challenges and I am very confident that upwards of 95% of our new-hires have minimal trouble with either.

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True, and you were around in the pre 9/11 era. When the ACMI's (to include your former employer) would take guys that had never flown nothing heavier than a small turbo-prop and put them into a heavy/glass jet, flying into some of the most challenging/demanding 3rd world crap holes, with next to nothing for dispatch support compared to a legacy. Then in a year, the dude can upgrade to said heavy/glass jet, flying into the SAME 3rd world crap holes, with next to nothing for dispatch support compared to a legacy. Interesting, is it not? That World/Gemini/Polar/Atlas/Souther/Tradewinds etc was capable of doing that.

I agree. But then again, go a few pages back and look who altered the trend of the thread vector.

And according to some of the other posts, the guys that would be the most screwed in the single seat/tactical jet guy .

Let's see, random thoughts on one's first crossing of IOE. You know, just to conform with the overall crappy vector the thread has taken;

"dude, what are these guys doing in this giant cockpit with me? Even more, who the heck are all those people behind that door?. Oh well, I get to have face to face interaction with my coworkers and eat/poop/pee when I want"

"where the heck is my wingman?"

"where's my HOTAS, I can't figure this out"

"I feel kinda naked flying without my g-suit on"

"Crap!!! where are the tankers to drag me across the Atlantic!!!!! We're gonna get lost!!!!!!. May day may day!!!! EJECT EJECT EJECT!!!!!!!!"

(god, I pity those that DON'T have the capacity to understand sarcastic/facetious intent).

Anyway, 80kts/BuckingBar/ACL65 were hired into the heavy equipment IIRC. And even if not, they advanced quickly before the downward slide in the recession. Granted, they're sharp dudes. And there were pilots of other backgrounds that were able to do the SAME. Nothing new here, nothing earth shattering or dangerous.

^^^^^^ What these cats are saying. One can do this job, or they can't. One posses the capacity/skill to manage the learning curve, or they don't. And with the calibre of candidates and the screening process, it's proven itself to be a non issue.

 

My resume in my military service was very similar to yours. I don't think anyone is saying that new hires are 'inept' or 'dangerous.' I'm a 2001 hire. What I think people are saying, and I concur completely, is that the flying and culture is 'different.' Don't be surprised if your first few captains are overly suspicious of you and your abilities. I guarantee you that your first few push backs will rattle your military mind.

It would be unwise not to expect just that.

Good luck and welcome aboard!!

 

Congrats crewdawg. I was hired at DAL with 2300 TT and up until you I think I was the lowest time. Congrats on the job. Gives me hope for a lot of my low time friends trying to get their foot in the door. You're going to love it!