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#5861
Was wondering if you guys could give me info on your career paths to the airlines. My son is in his second year in college and is now interested in this job. UVU seems interesting. I live in C Springs and the aero club at Pete Field has an agreement with them and ratings rides and flight time. I understand that you can only get an Associates degree there. Is that correct. Other than ERAU, Auburn, NDU, Purdue, Mid Tenn. where are the other flight colleges? Can someone explain what the FAA accredited schools really mean? What's the best way to get flight instruction? Any info on the schools would be great.
Good time to have him start down this career path. You will find a lot of folks that will say this career stinks. This year I will average 17 days a month off and make about 175K. Took 14 years to get here, but in my opinion it is still one of the best high paying careers in the country right now.
#5862
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Okay... need some help figuring out these questions on the gouge (maybe rule of thumb used and or source). Some I can figure out with some trig, but no calcs allowed during test.
You are on the XYZ VOR 090° radial at 20 DME. You are instructed to proceed direct to the XYZ VOR 180° radial at 70 DME. The direct, no wind heading is:
a) 185°
b) 190°
c) 195°
d) 200°
You are at airport A located at 33’20”N 108’02”W. You are flying to airport B located at 35’55”N 107’58”W. Approximately how many miles is it from airport A
to airport B?
a) 4
b) 120
c) 155
d) 200
You are on the XYZ 270 radial at 30 DME. You are cleared to fly the 30 DME arc to the 300 radial, and hold. You are flying at .6 Mach and it is 1800z. At what time will you arrive at the holding fix?
a) 1805z
b) 1810z
c) 1815z
d) 1820z
You are on the XYZ VOR 090 radial at 30 DME and you need to fly direct to the 190 radial at 60 DME. What is the no wind heading.
a. 180
b. 190
c. 210
d. 235
You are located at 34’20” N and 108’02 W and 38’50” N and 107’58” W. How many miles is it between coordinates
What causes the loud noise of a jet engine?
a. High speed of compressors
b. Fast moving air being ejected (Guessing it's this one but can't find source)
c. The hot gases mixing with the cooler atmosphere
d. Something Else
If there is another forum dedicated to this stuff, please point me in the right direction. Any help would be appreciated! Interviewing Tuesday and these are the last unanswered/non-sourced ques I have.
You are on the XYZ VOR 090° radial at 20 DME. You are instructed to proceed direct to the XYZ VOR 180° radial at 70 DME. The direct, no wind heading is:
a) 185°
b) 190°
c) 195°
d) 200°
You are at airport A located at 33’20”N 108’02”W. You are flying to airport B located at 35’55”N 107’58”W. Approximately how many miles is it from airport A
to airport B?
a) 4
b) 120
c) 155
d) 200
You are on the XYZ 270 radial at 30 DME. You are cleared to fly the 30 DME arc to the 300 radial, and hold. You are flying at .6 Mach and it is 1800z. At what time will you arrive at the holding fix?
a) 1805z
b) 1810z
c) 1815z
d) 1820z
You are on the XYZ VOR 090 radial at 30 DME and you need to fly direct to the 190 radial at 60 DME. What is the no wind heading.
a. 180
b. 190
c. 210
d. 235
You are located at 34’20” N and 108’02 W and 38’50” N and 107’58” W. How many miles is it between coordinates
What causes the loud noise of a jet engine?
a. High speed of compressors
b. Fast moving air being ejected (Guessing it's this one but can't find source)
c. The hot gases mixing with the cooler atmosphere
d. Something Else
If there is another forum dedicated to this stuff, please point me in the right direction. Any help would be appreciated! Interviewing Tuesday and these are the last unanswered/non-sourced ques I have.
You know they used to throw in one or two ridiculously complicated questions to see if someone would get "suckered" into wasting a lot of time on one questions and then run out of time with a bunch of unanswered questions.
I distinctly remember a question about dumping fuel that was pretty much a "trap.'"
Not saying that is what you have here - but I would probably skip a few of those and answer them at the end.
Time management is important.
Scoop
#5863
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
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No offense intended (really), but I'd avoid "sending" your basically-an-adult son anywhere, to include an FAA doc. Show up at a Guard unit WITH your son, and you run the risk of scaring the unit that he's not mature or independent enough to handle the challenge. I've hosted many an inquisitive escorting father at multiple Guard units, and it doesn't usually bode well for the son/daughter's potential. Maybe it's today's standard of parental involvement, but it seems like your son should be the one on discussion forums investigating his own future?
Good luck to you both!
#5864
You know they used to throw in one or two ridiculously complicated questions to see if someone would get "suckered" into wasting a lot of time on one questions and then run out of time with a bunch of unanswered questions.
I distinctly remember a question about dumping fuel that was pretty much a "trap.'"
Not saying that is what you have here - but I would probably skip a few of those and answer them at the end.
Time management is important.
Scoop
I distinctly remember a question about dumping fuel that was pretty much a "trap.'"
Not saying that is what you have here - but I would probably skip a few of those and answer them at the end.
Time management is important.
Scoop
#5865
Just a heads up - a lot of what passes as "gouge" out there is very outdated, with incorrect answers, and not on the Delta knowledge test. There are also a lot of questions in the question bank that have not made it to the gouge. In other words, if you studied nothing but gouge questions, like most of us did, you would probably only recognize about about 1/3 of the questions on the test. The rest you would have to use brainpower for, which hopefully all of your studying prepared you for.
#5866
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 58
We consolidated and added to the cog test part of the gouge as well. There is a separate folder just for the cog test now up on the updated gouge. There are even notes on recommended lumosity/happy-neuron games to play in preparation for each segment of the test as well as more detailed directions on how to use those old PPTs that sort of mimicked the cog tests.
Everyone who PMed me (all 40+ of you) should have the updated gouge now. If anyone else wants it, again, send me a PM with your address.
Everyone who PMed me (all 40+ of you) should have the updated gouge now. If anyone else wants it, again, send me a PM with your address.
#5867
Just a heads up - a lot of what passes as "gouge" out there is very outdated, with incorrect answers, and not on the Delta knowledge test. There are also a lot of questions in the question bank that have not made it to the gouge. In other words, if you studied nothing but gouge questions, like most of us did, you would probably only recognize about about 1/3 of the questions on the test. The rest you would have to use brainpower for, which hopefully all of your studying prepared you for.
Second, in talking to several folks who took the test, and reading the recent trip reports, to my knowledge there are no fix-to-fix questions or questions about calculating the distance between lat/long coordinates.
Second, in talking to several folks who took the test, and reading the recent trip reports, to my knowledge there are no fix-to-fix questions or questions about calculating the distance between lat/long coordinates.
I interviewed/hired early this year, and I had both the lat/long question (almost due north, which you detailed well), and the fix-to-fix (draw it out quickly and the answer is pretty obvious). I had no math more complicated than simple 3:1 descents.
The most noise from a jet engine is from the speed of the exhaust. At least that's what they told us in my undergrad degree (aero/propulsion).
#5868
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 322
Tan X = 2/7
2/7 = .2857
Tan 16 = .2867
Thus, it's 196
The other option is to use the 60 to 1 rule. So if your at 60 DME on the 180 and want to go to the 20 DME on the 090 that is the same as a 20 degree turn. So your heading is now 360 + 20 = heading 020. We want to go the other directions so heading is now 200. So to be more accurate we have to go to 70 DME. If 60 to 1 then it's 70 to .86. So 20 X .86 =16.8. So 360 + 16.8 = heading 016.8. That's if we want to go from the 70 DME to the 20 DME going north we want to go south so the heading is 196.8.
So the answer I come up with is 196.8 but it would appear the only choices are 195 and 200. Guess I'll have to go with 195. Just sucks when the answers to choose from isn't even a correct choice.
#5869
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 7
This is a good question. I found two ways to solve it but not sure what's the best or most correct. The first is that this is a right triangle trig.
Tan X = 2/7
2/7 = .2857
Tan 16 = .2867
Thus, it's 196
The other option is to use the 60 to 1 rule. So if your at 60 DME on the 180 and want to go to the 20 DME on the 090 that is the same as a 20 degree turn. So your heading is now 360 + 20 = heading 020. We want to go the other directions so heading is now 200. So to be more accurate we have to go to 70 DME. If 60 to 1 then it's 70 to .86. So 20 X .86 =16.8. So 360 + 16.8 = heading 016.8. That's if we want to go from the 70 DME to the 20 DME going north we want to go south so the heading is 196.8.
So the answer I come up with is 196.8 but it would appear the only choices are 195 and 200. Guess I'll have to go with 195. Just sucks when the answers to choose from isn't even a correct choice.
Tan X = 2/7
2/7 = .2857
Tan 16 = .2867
Thus, it's 196
The other option is to use the 60 to 1 rule. So if your at 60 DME on the 180 and want to go to the 20 DME on the 090 that is the same as a 20 degree turn. So your heading is now 360 + 20 = heading 020. We want to go the other directions so heading is now 200. So to be more accurate we have to go to 70 DME. If 60 to 1 then it's 70 to .86. So 20 X .86 =16.8. So 360 + 16.8 = heading 016.8. That's if we want to go from the 70 DME to the 20 DME going north we want to go south so the heading is 196.8.
So the answer I come up with is 196.8 but it would appear the only choices are 195 and 200. Guess I'll have to go with 195. Just sucks when the answers to choose from isn't even a correct choice.
Love the 60:1 rule use to figure this out. Very cool way to think about it.
#5870
Problem is, solving this with those numbers yields 15 NM, or about 2.5 min. and 1803z isn't an answer choice!
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