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Old 04-14-2015, 09:18 AM
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Anybody in ATL to interview tomorrow (15 Apr) and want to get together for dinner or something? Send a PM.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:08 AM
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The masters absolutely matters, to include how long it took to complete and what field of study you concentrated on. It likely won't be the hire/don't hire trigger point, but it goes into the whole person concept that is being reviewed by the interview team.
This. I had quite the lackluster C+ performance both in high school and in undergrad (admittedly a STEM degree from tough school). Yet I had a 3.9+ in a very challenging Masters program. Interviewers asked why.

I explained it using the truth. I was a lazy college kid who took longer than the average bear to catch a clue. I pointed to other examples of high performance - flying, PME/queepcations, and other training/education - as further evidence I'd reformed my ways.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MTSUFlyer View Post
All the hiring briefs from WAI are running together in my brain but approximately every 30 days comes to memory. Computer program racks and stacks, higher points means more likely to get human eyes on. AK emphasized the importance of having an app that was typo/error free. Based off that, I had a couple other pilots review my app... they all caught little things I'd missed. Another thing, make sure you continue to update your app fairly often (within ~60 days), otherwise you might get your app moved to a holding pattern w/ an indefinite EFC (ie until you update again).
We (in indoc last year) were specifically told that Delta does NOT use a program to rack and stack - apps are scored manually and Delta prides itself on that difference from the competition. Thousands of apps on file have likely not been scored since there was no accompanying internal recommendation to trigger the manual pull-to-review/score.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74 View Post
We (in indoc last year) were specifically told that Delta does NOT use a program to rack and stack - apps are scored manually and Delta prides itself on that difference from the competition. Thousands of apps on file have likely not been scored since there was no accompanying internal recommendation to trigger the manual pull-to-review/score.
So if you don't have an internal, why apply?

Regardless, there's a computer program that weeds through all the applications looking for triggers, maybe not on based on "points", but I'm sure there's not 20 monkeys in a room looking through 12,000 apps just to see which one has an internal. I know all apps do have human eyes on it before an invite is sent, but it's unrealistic to think all 12,000 apps are read by AK (or the hiring team) every time those apps are updated. If i recall there were 3 things that would get your app looked at with human eyes. As stated, the internal is one. There were others but I don't remember what they were (nor do I think AK would appreciate it being written here).

Call it what you want- points, rack and stack, etc, but there's a computer program involved and if your app doesn't trigger the proper electrons, your app won't get eyes on.

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Old 04-14-2015, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74 View Post
We (in indoc last year) were specifically told that Delta does NOT use a program to rack and stack - apps are scored manually and Delta prides itself on that difference from the competition. Thousands of apps on file have likely not been scored since there was no accompanying internal recommendation to trigger the manual pull-to-review/score.
I highly doubt this is true. Recs help, but I know folks that have gotten hired with 0.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:33 PM
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Did a class start on Monday (4/13) and if so, any word on the drop?
No class this week... next one starts on Monday, 20 Apr.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:36 PM
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Hello,

My application on AirApps was full of mistakes when I accidently published it. I am not available until March 2016 and I have since fixed all the issues (was incorrect in the system for about 3 weeks!). At what point does Delta score the app? Do they re-score at some point? I have read a lot of posts regarding the scoring but I was wondering if anyone had any insight as to whether availability will affect when an application is scored.

Thanks in advance!
Apps are scored when an internal rec is submitted via email or you do a face to face at a conference like Women in Aviation. You are probably ok. Good luck!
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:12 PM
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Anybody in ATL to interview tomorrow (15 Apr) and want to get together for dinner or something? Send a PM.
Try to relax, get some sleep and remember they wouldn't be interviewing you if they didn't want to hire you.

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Originally Posted by MTSUFlyer View Post
So if you don't have an internal, why apply?

Regardless, there's a computer program that weeds through all the applications looking for triggers, maybe not on based on "points", but I'm sure there's not 20 monkeys in a room looking through 12,000 apps just to see which one has an internal. I know all apps do have human eyes on it before an invite is sent, but it's unrealistic to think all 12,000 apps are read by AK (or the hiring team) every time those apps are updated. If i recall there were 3 things that would get your app looked at with human eyes. As stated, the internal is one. There were others but I don't remember what they were (nor do I think AK would appreciate it being written here).

Call it what you want- points, rack and stack, etc, but there's a computer program involved and if your app doesn't trigger the proper electrons, your app won't get eyes on.
I don't think you get it. There is no computer looking for triggers at Delta. If you are recommended internally, (or attend conferences like mentioned above - something I left out, and there are likely other non-algorithm triggers), your app will be scored by human beings. This is different from United and others. If you still believe I'm incorrect, let me know and I'll inform OC Miller he's full of it.
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Originally Posted by TED74 View Post
I don't think you get it. There is no computer looking for triggers at Delta. If you are recommended internally, (or attend conferences like mentioned above - something I left out, and there are likely other non-algorithm triggers), your app will be scored by human beings. This is different from United and others. If you still believe I'm incorrect, let me know and I'll inform OC Miller he's full of it.
Also, don't assume "all 12,000 apps" have been reviewed electronically or otherwise. Delta knows this is the case - there are definitely some great apps sitting latent in the system. So it behooves people to get an internal if at all possible.
Originally Posted by MTSUFlyer View Post
So if you don't have an internal, why apply?

Regardless, there's a computer program that weeds through all the applications looking for triggers, maybe not on based on "points", but I'm sure there's not 20 monkeys in a room looking through 12,000 apps just to see which one has an internal. I know all apps do have human eyes on it before an invite is sent, but it's unrealistic to think all 12,000 apps are read by AK (or the hiring team) every time those apps are updated. If i recall there were 3 things that would get your app looked at with human eyes. As stated, the internal is one. There were others but I don't remember what they were (nor do I think AK would appreciate it being written here).

Call it what you want- points, rack and stack, etc, but there's a computer program involved and if your app doesn't trigger the proper electrons, your app won't get eyes on.
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