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Old 09-04-2014, 08:30 PM
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Bazinga!! Good one!!
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Old 09-05-2014, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
I just realized that the DALPA operatives here have already dropped all pretense of obtaining a "home run" contract.

All of their posts here have been about why we must provide concessions--making the company's case, arguing why we need to grant relief. None of the DALPA operatives are even attempting to rally us towards massive improvements.

Why do we put up with this?


The new official talking point is no 2004 rates date of signing.

Same DALPA stuff, different DALPA day.

These guys would think we need concessions if Delta made a $1 trillion dollar profit.
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Old 09-05-2014, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
The new official talking point is no 2004 rates date of signing.

Same DALPA stuff, different DALPA day.

These guys would think we need concessions if Delta made a $1 trillion dollar profit.
You guys are spinning each other up over absolutely nothing. I've heard no such talking point, nor have I seen anyone come on here and state that we need to give concessions.. Give it a chance...
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
What are you talking about? .
Please provide an example of a Dalpa operative here building trust, finding common ground, and rallying us to achieve massive gains--why isn't "restoration" our opener?--in what could be the best negotiating environment we'll ever see. One example of leadership. Just one will do.
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
Please provide an example of a Dalpa operative here building trust, finding common ground, and rallying us to achieve massive gains--why isn't "restoration" our opener?--in what could be the best negotiating environment we'll ever see. One example of leadership. Just one will do.
I see what you are saying. There are a group which are often referred to as DALPA operatives who seem to take the anti-argument whenever there's a post from someone who they probably label as a (defunct alternate representation attempt) operative...even to the detriment of any gain or constructive conversation about possible gains.

I can easily be a single issue voter...if there are concessions, I'll vote no.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1 View Post
I see what you are saying. There are a group which are often referred to as DALPA operatives who seem to take the anti-argument whenever there's a post from someone who they probably label as a (defunct alternate representation attempt) operative...even to the detriment of any gain or constructive conversation about possible gains.

I can easily be a single issue voter...if there are concessions, I'll vote no.
Me too. I'm getting a bag tag that says "Just don't make it worse in 2015".

I would honestly be happy with a wide smattering of small improvements. But not willing to deal with any concessions. Before anyone says "it's negotiations", I get that. This is the most favorable negotiating environment I am likely to see in my lifetime. If ALPA can't hit this slow-pitch softball, we are F'd.

Please don't make anything like sick leave or profit sharing worse.
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
Please provide an example of a Dalpa operative here building trust, finding common ground, and rallying us to achieve massive gains--why isn't "restoration" our opener?--in what could be the best negotiating environment we'll ever see. One example of leadership. Just one will do.
First, I have no clue what a "DALPA operative" is. A good start would be providing a working definition so there is a frame of reference who you are referencing when you cite DALPA operatives. Second, I haven't made a claim that "DALPA operatives" are "building trust, finding common ground, and rallying us to achieve massive gains" so I'm not sure why you want me to provide an example of that. And there's the fact that I have no clue what a "DALPA operative" is.

Can you provide an example of a "DALPA operative" posting about "why we must provide concessions"? You made a claim, back it up.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post
I just realized that my ignore list is too short.
Yeah, and if people would stop quoting that thing it would be much much more mature here.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
The new official talking point is no 2004 rates date of signing.
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Prove it..... in writing. Citation and who said it, or this is more of your idiotic turds in the punchbowl.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:01 AM
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Prove it..... in writing. Citation and who said it, or this is more of your idiotic turds in the punchbowl.
Certainly, Lee Moak intimated it.
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