Isn't he the guy who leveraged his ALPA "service" into a six figure fee to consult on the ual merger?

He is the most arrogant, condescending ALPA poster here. And that's saying something.

 

Interesting. I forgot he was the head of the committee you were referring to. He's actually a guy I have a lot of respect for. He's a good combination of having enough intellect and enough guts. I know he's not liked by some N pilots because they felt he was too effective in the SLI, but if it helps, many S pilots think he was too conciliatory.

I have had a conversation with him before during C2012, and in no way did I feel he was talking down to the group, or disrespecting the intellect of the group. I obviously can't speak about his feelings on the survey, but I think both you and I agreed that the survey was poor.

Bottom line: I think he's 100% on our team, and I'm glad he's there. He's maybe not the crazy mofo who's going to force RA to go to 100% of what we want after a couple years of bluffing, but if he was a negotiator, I'm guessing he'd get us 95%, with a minimum of fuss, and no weird givebacks. Maybe there isn't a crazy mofo out there that will force RA to that mythical place anyway, because RA can play defense just the same as he can try for a consensual deal early. So, if we're comparing real guys who have gotten a very solid job done, vs. guys who have not gotten a mythical, pie-in-the-sky deal done (in their minds), I'll take RH.

In either case, he's not our negotiator.

With all that being said, respect doesn't mean acceptance. If he (hypothetically) thought we need to monetize the PS, I'd disagree with him.

 

As I said, hoping for the best. This is a once in a profession opportunity.

 

I agree with you there.

 

Imagine saying to a neighbor, coworker, shareholder, stockholder, etc.

Delta is making billions and billions in record profits. Our annual fuel expense just dropper over $7 BILLION DOLLARS.

Our position is that we should make in hourly rates what the Delta pilots made in 2004 plus a little for inflation.

Do you think that is reasonable?

Yet, we will fail. Count on it. Our execs compensation is up over 700% since chapter 11 and we won't come close to a decade ago.

Does that make sense?

 

Our annual fuel expense has been around 10 to 11 billion. Our you saying it has dropped to 3 to 4 billion?
Edit: the fuel bill for the last complete year in 2013.was about 8.8 billion. Looks like it will be about 10.8 billion for 2014.

 

Americans A plan was only for 25% to 35% of FAE not 60% like the Delta plan. It was also funded at better then 80% at the time AMR filed for chapter 11. It's funding obligations were a tiny percentage of what the Delta plan owed. With market performance the last two years it's possible their funding obligation could be zero. Still over time I think it will be close to the profit sharing. It's nothing like what you state. The plan is frozen.

 

And he did a incredible job for the Delta pilots in the SLI and UAL feels the same!

 

AA pay rate graphs/valuations are out. We will still lag you guys if we don't have profit sharing. Voting currently open until Jan 30. We are hoping for a no vote to use the leverage we have and get more.

The rates are based on Delta +7% for 2015 but of course when DAL profit sharing is factored in it's more like Delta - 13%

Info here:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/am...ta-graphs.html

 

I'm saying jet fuel has dropped from $3.22 per gallon to $1.51 today. By Richard own comments each penny of the cost of jet fuel is $40 million to Delta. I believe we are getting jet fuel at $1.41 because of the refinery.

There is no excuse for not hitting the 2004 rates plus date of signing. The insiders are putting out that will never happen.

Hoping the MEC does their job and is not manipulated by these individuals.