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05-16-2015 | 07:23 AM

#4321

Falcon7

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore

True. I was referring to the full amount that we received, having pre-sold the $2.1B claim for some 60 cents on the dollar.

OK, thanks for the clarification.

05-16-2015 | 07:25 AM

#4322

BigGuns

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CORRECTED

CAPTAIN
AA Pay Group 12 yr 12 yr 5 yr 5 yr
V B747 307.76 270.25 -12.2% 291.62 256.09 -12.2%
IV B777 293.11 270.25 -7.8% 277.74 256.09 -7.8%
IV B787 293.11 258.90 -11.7% 277.74 245.19 -11.7%
IV B767-4 290.11 255.28 -12.9% 277.74 241.86 -12.9%
IV A330 290.11 255.28 -12.9% 277.74 241.86 -12.9%
III B767 249.30 226.21 -9.3% 234.29 212.58 -9.3%
III B757 249.30 226.21 -9.3% 234.29 212.58 -9.3%
II B737-900 234.67 218.05 -7.1% 221.81 206.48 -6.9%
II B737-700/800 234.67 216.92 -7.6% 221.81 205.56 -7.3%
II A320/319 234.67 209.31 -10.8% 221.81 198.23 -10.6%
II M88/90 234.67 205.56 -12.4% 221.81 192.46 -13.2%
I B717 153.65 195.19 27.0% 145.54 184.91 27.1%

FIRST OFFICER
AA DL AA DL AA Pay Group 12 yr 12 yr 5 yr 5 yr
V B747 210.20 184.59 -12.2% 186.92 164.14 -12.2%
IV B777 200.20 184.59 -7.8% 178.02 164.14 -7.8%
IV B787 200.20 176.83 -11.7% 178.02 157.17 -11.7%
IV B767-4 200.20 174.35 -12.9% 178.02 155.04 -12.9%
IV A330 200.20 174.35 -12.9% 178.02 155.04 -12.9%
III B767 170.27 154.50 -9.3% 150.17 136.26 -9.3%
III B757 170.27 154.50 -9.3% 150.17 136.26 -9.3%
II B737-900 160.28 148.93 -7.1% 142.18 132.34 -6.9%
II B737-700/800 160.28 148.16 -7.6% 142.18 131.77 -7.3%
II A320/319 160.28 142.96 -10.8% 142.18 127.06 -10.6%
II M88/90 160.28 140.40 -12.4% 142.18 123.36 -13.2%
I B717 104.93 133.30 27.0% 93.30 118.53 27.0%

05-16-2015 | 07:46 AM

#4323

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by Purple Drank

Right now, for us, it's not "give and take." Compromise for us in this environment means "take or take slightly less."

As always, thanks for being the anchor.

As always the question becomes how did contract 2012 end up being the contract everyone envied and the admitted benchmark by both management and unions at all the other passengers airlines? How did we go from virtually last to first in 6 years?

05-16-2015 | 08:50 AM

#4324

Purple Drank

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

How did we go from virtually last to first in 6 years?

Carl completely eviscerated your ridiculous claim about being "first."

Keep up the good work. RA is counting on you to help him buy his 5th house--at our expense. Did he tell you if it would be a chalet in Davos? A ranch in Chile? Did he promise to invite you over?

05-16-2015 | 08:53 AM

#4325

Carl Spackler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple Drank

Yes. RA's cars aren't going to wash themselves.

Carl

05-16-2015 | 09:05 AM

#4326

Purple Drank

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

RA's balls aren't going to wash themselves.

Fixed it

Too far?

05-16-2015 | 09:09 AM

#4327

orvil

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple Drank

Fixed it

Too far?

No.

05-16-2015 | 11:32 AM

#4328

Flamer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

Wow. Even ALPA knows that is not true. If we were anywhere near first they would be telling me that daily. We are not.

I know you read the contract comparison.

05-16-2015 | 12:12 PM

#4329

Carl Spackler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamer

Wow. Even ALPA knows that is not true. If we were anywhere near first they would be telling me that daily. We are not.

I know you read the contract comparison.

He sure did read it. He just doesn't understand it. Like others have said, sailingfud is excellent at gathering data, and among the worst ever at analyzing it.

It's like a dog looking at a wristwatch. It's not that the dog can't see it, he just can't tell time.

Carl

05-16-2015 | 01:21 PM

#4330

sailingfun

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamer

Wow. Even ALPA knows that is not true. If we were anywhere near first they would be telling me that daily. We are not.

I know you read the contract comparison.

We were when contract 2012 was signed and I would be willing to bet that when the 2014 numbers are tabulated we will have the highest average Saleries and the highest cost per block hour. A contract is the sum of all its parts good and bad.