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Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1896624)

Awesome!! :D

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Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1896631)

Awesome!! :D

There was a part 2 but I can't find it.

Where they agree to longer flight/duty days in exchange for a RedBull at top of descent.

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Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1896624)

learning to say YES!

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1896575)

8/0/3/3

Then subtract 2% per year for inflation 6/0/1/1

Historic

And 1.9% for dues

World's best

I am ashamed to be associated with this type of skunking.

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Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1896504)

So, PD. He now has directly answered rather than practiced the evasive re-direction in his answer.

You have some sort of proof that this person did the things you claim he did ?

Good question.

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Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1896575)

8/0/3/3

Then subtract 2% per year for inflation 6/0/1/1

Historic

Give it a rest on the rumor spreading. We will know actual numbers next week. I have lost track of how many different numbers have been posted on here. Stop believing everything you hear or read on the internet and wait for the facts to come out.

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Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1896555)

Sweet. Back inflation out and you can have a zero percent raise in the best negotiating environment of the century.

Any chance of getting DPA to file a class action lawsuit against your 5th grade math teacher?

For folks that make 200K a year your ability to perform basic math is sad.

I get that we all want a big pay raise. I don't think it's axing too much to run the numbers for yourself and not bite on an Abbott and Costillo math skit.

Oh my.... This is not a good way to do math. Your 5th grade teacher should be ashamed. Get your son or daughter in the room, you need assistance!

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Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 1896424)

This was forwarded to me, doyd…

Generic Napkin Math, based on 2014 PS %, percentages if incorrect would still be comparable.

"Typical MD-88 Captain"

Rumored:

2015
75 hours @ $206 Jan thru July = $108,150
75 Hours @ $223 Aug - Dec = $83,430 (8% DOS)
Total Salary = $191,580
Est. Profit Sharing @ 16.5% = $31,610
Total Compensation = $223,190

2016
Salary @ 236 ( 6% -1/1/16) = $212,400
Est. Profit sharing = $23,347 (33% reduction or 5.75% decrease)
Total = $235,764

2 Year Total compensation with rumored raises= $458,954

Status Quo

2015
Salary @ $206 = $185,400
Est. Profit Sharing = $30,591
Total = $215,991
2016
Salary @ $212.18 = $190,962
Est. Profit Sharing = $31,508
Total = $222,470

2 Year Total compensation without TA = $438, 461

Rumored = 458, 954
Staus Quo = 438,661
Difference = $20,492 over 2 years or Approx 2.25% raise per year…….

Conditions:
206.69/hr
16.5% PS
75 pay hours per month
(the actual average pay hours per month is 89, but I like the idea of working from 75, why work extra!)

You also leave out the 15% DC, which is paid as regular after-tax income to a pilot once he has reached the 415c limits. That's real money too.

STATUS QUO:
206.69 x 12 x 75 = $186,021 + PS of 16.5% = $216,714
With 15% DC = 249,221

Two year total = $498,442

With the Booger's rumored numbers:

2015 Jan.-June 206.69 x 6 x 75 = $93,010
2015 July-Dec. (+8%) 223.22 x 6 x 75 = $100,451
2015 total $193,461 + PS of 16.5% = $225,382
2015 With DC 15% = $259,189

2016
(+6%) 236.62 x 12 x 75 = $212,958
PS = 10.75% (16.5%-5.75%)
212,958 + PS 10.75% = $235,851
With DC 15% = $271,229

Two year total = $530,418

That is actually a hypothetical increase to that hypothetical pilot of $31,975.

Using your numbers it equates to:
His 2015 earnings being 4% higher than without said hypothetical deal.
His 2016 earnings being 8.8% higher than without said hypothetical deal.

Quite a difference from the 2.25% you errantly compiled!

(Let's not get into what the compounding of the DC and the equivalent of an extra mortgage payment of over $1776 per month can do!)

In the future, please do your math correctly or leave it to those who can.....

I heard from a reliable source:

12/10/5/5 no givebacks and a me too clause for stock options with reserve guarantee at 150hrs. Small retirement bump only 2% but you get your name painted on the side of an airplane at 10 YOS.

Quit it already. It's all BS. Demand they put it out. Don't settle for the super secret decoder ring crap. You are the union. This is absolutely childish, I'm taking my ball and going home.