Amen brother!!

 

The real short answer is "If this TA was so good there would be no need for the full court press to sell it, it would sell itself." Just Saying!! NO NO NO!!!

 

It was (still is) our profit sharing to begin with though. They don't own a penny of it and never did.

 

He'll just be flying a full line for straight pay instead instead of a full line for triple pay. Meanwhile everyone's seniority takes a huge trickle down hit.

 

Exactly.

Dumbest bluff in history.

If the E190 is replacement then why would we EVER facilitate this with a scope concession?

If the E190 is growth, then we sit on our hands and they have to get the anyway because they can't staff their own marketing plan with the 2% extra DCI seats on inefficient 50 seaters that they can't staff anyway.

The 737's have already been announced as replacements so who cares.

They are going to get the planes they need regardless of this ridiculous scope deal. Meanwhile if we reject the TA, they have to scramble to cover the network with a collapsing DCI system with inefficient 50 seaters that they can't staff anyway.

 

In every contract, I heard the union ask "did we leave money on the table?". Have you heard that? No. Why?

 

Bingo! Just like in 2012, the 717's were coming anyway, regardless of our vote. Did anyone really believe Richard was going to re-engine an entire fleet of 50 seat RJ's if we voted that one down? Really?

These 737's and 190's are coming regardless of this TA vote. Why should WE buy little airplanes for Delta, while changing our JV scope to allow them to outsource more of our Wide Body flying to help pay for 190's?

WHY?

We are idiots if we fall for this...AGAIN!

 

But what are the compounded costs of the concessions? There are far more in the TA than PS reduction. Some of them are huge too. DL could start flying foreign metal painted and marketed as Delta. The AF JV could fall a couple percent more in block hours, with a radical shift in marketshare to AF. DCI gets a new lease on life and stays around longer. We get replacement E190s and 737s to replace larger higher paying equipment. Job losses all around not only from scope but from OE trip pulls, early day one reserves again and many other concessions that will cost us jobs. Reduced staffing due to longer training freezes for new hires. Reduced staffing because more pilots fly sick due to the huge third party land grab. This WILL happen 100%.

All of these have a compounding cost.

I'll take current book and the NMB any day over this TA.

 

True. Which means now is the perfect time to blow 5B in stock buybacks!

Wait, what?

 

You got some proof they weren't coming?

Nobody said the 50 seaters were going to be reengined. We said that instead of having 125 they'd have 200-225 CRJ-200 after the 3 year period. We also said that there'd be fewer mainline airplanes without the deal and told you management had a plan B. We verified Plan B through the pilot director, aircraft manufacturers involved (competitors) and aircraft leasing companies.

Taking plan A we got about 60 extra mainline aircraft. Do the math on the Captain seats created.

Would management commit fraud and possible SEC violations over a pilot contract?

Really?

Don't make me drag Scambo's quote out again!