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Old 06-14-2015 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gopher3
Sorry if this has been covered ad nauseum.....but why are we closing voting 5 days before the announcement of quarterly results? In the words of Ferris Bueller, "I smell a rat."

No, it hasn't been covered ad nauseum....but it should be!!
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Old 06-14-2015 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
You got some proof they weren't coming?

Nobody said the 50 seaters were going to be reengined. We said that instead of having 125 they'd have 200-225 CRJ-200 after the 3 year period. We also said that there'd be fewer mainline airplanes without the deal and told you management had a plan B. We verified Plan B through the pilot director, aircraft manufacturers involved (competitors) and aircraft leasing companies.

Taking plan A we got about 60 extra mainline aircraft. Do the math on the Captain seats created.

Would management commit fraud and possible SEC violations over a pilot contract?

Really?

Don't make me drag Scambo's quote out again!
Speaking of quotes…here are some quotes from the ALPA Table Talk which recently came in the mail.

C2012 Scorecard:

"Delta was looking to reconfigure their fleet by adding 88 B-717 aircraft"

"Delta needed to add more 76 seat regional jets to help in their negotiations with third parties"

"Delta would save significant maintenance expenses on older 50-seat regional jets as well as produce more revenue from larger aircraft" (highlights mine)

Goals 2012:

"Capture a significant portion of RJ maintenance cost savings"
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Old 06-14-2015 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Moondog
The real short answer is "If this TA was so good there would be no need for the full court press to sell it, it would sell itself." Just Saying!! NO NO NO!!!
Well said.
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Old 06-14-2015 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
In an effort to answer these questions as we get closer to road shows please send specific questions to: [email protected]

The experts in the contract language will be answering these and they will be posted on the DALMEC Facebook page.
LMAO

"experts"

Good one!!
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Old 06-14-2015 | 10:09 AM
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Curious. Has DALPA ever expedited the vote on a full contract TA as they have done for C2015?
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Old 06-14-2015 | 10:13 AM
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Professor - the reserve pilot requirements. Old formula vs the new one. I think it means fewer reserves on any given day, except Christmas which looks like twice as many as before (who wants to be home for Christmas anyway right? Bah humbug!), but the math is so convoluded and different as to seem impossible to compare. Is there a way we could get a comparison? Say this months ATLMD88B next to what it would have been under the new computations?
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Old 06-14-2015 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SharpestTool
If the sick leave is revamped and the line check bidding is removed, can this thing get enough votes?
I don't believe we should give at all in this market. How much did we get through the bankruptcy contract? That said, I'm ok with you not letting people call sick and then picking up green slips on any of the days that were dropped due to the sick call. THATS IT. Leave the rest alone. The problem is that you gave about 5 different ways on the sick policy alone.
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Old 06-14-2015 | 10:18 AM
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See my new signature line? We need an answer for it.
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Old 06-14-2015 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jdborg
I don't believe we should give at all in this market. How much did we get through the bankruptcy contract? That said, I'm ok with you not letting people call sick and then picking up green slips on any of the days that were dropped due to the sick call. THATS IT. Leave the rest alone. The problem is that you gave about 5 different ways on the sick policy alone.
The way I understand it (and I could be wrong since i have only read it once) is that they count your sick time toward your FAR times, so you can't pick up green slips later in the month if it would be a FAR violation. It's not really for picking them up on days you're out sick necessarily.

here's the language: (sorry for the formatting)
f.
A
pilot
will not be awarded
a GS or GSWC
for a
rotation
if the rotation
is within 30
minutes of creating an FAR conflict with the flight and
/or
flight duty period time of a
rotation(s)
on the pilot’s line along with the rotation(s)
that the pilot
missed
or will
miss due to
sick leave
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Old 06-14-2015 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by qball
Curious. Has DALPA ever expedited the vote on a full contract TA as they have done for C2015?
The MEC did that because this quarter's earning report will come out a few days AFTER the vote closes.

There is a high probability that the earnings from this one quarter ($1.1 Billion+) will pay for all the 'gains' in this TA for the next 3 years!

How weak is that?
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