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Old 05-04-2016 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hvydvr
No orange to new hires. I think they are still giving out the black and red ones at the dinner.


They didn't even give us black and red ones. I've got my alpa pin on my tie and orange bag tag though.
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Old 05-04-2016 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I was at the training center recently (looked for finis, nowhere in sight but saw an a$$ ton of new hires. I was as giddy to see them as they were to be here.). Anyway, I digress. I only saw two line pilots without orange. Exactly the opposite experience.

I agree with you....I see orange on pilots a lot more than I see pilots without it.
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Old 05-05-2016 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Redbird611
Indeed. I wish everyone understood that. I've gotten flak from two Captains now for not having an orange lanyard despite being on probation. I'm sorry, but I've seen hostages taken before. The ALPA pin will have to do for a few months.
Your only priorities right now are to fly, gain proficiency in the operation and equipment and get off probation. Don't do anything to jeopardize any of those. There will be plenty of time for you to show union support, be concerned with the contract negotiations and Figure out how much contractual gains would earn your yes vote only after you start paying dues and have a vote. For now...keep your nose clean and learn!
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Old 05-05-2016 | 08:58 AM
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Have noticed more orange on every trip. It's definitely catching on. Kinda disappointing that guys waited so long to test the waters, though. That sends a message of its own.
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Old 05-05-2016 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
Have noticed more orange on every trip. It's definitely catching on. Kinda disappointing that guys waited so long to test the waters, though. That sends a message of its own.
Orange lanyards are great. Sounds like we might even see some informational picketing. But its still pre-game warmup. The whistle hasn't really blown yet.

I think there is a lot of pent up "militancy" out there. You can feel it on the line and in the lounges. Every time management puts out a memo telling us how great we are and how we need to keep up the operational excellence, guys are only getting more disgusted and angry. And its not just senior management. The whole Flight Ops structure from Dickson to the chief pilots and right down to the line check airmen is going to start losing credibility and respect.

Ed giving interviews where he attributes Delta's recovery and recent success to the great employees and the fabulous "culture" is just the latest insult.
How on Earth can he say that stuff while he still has the pilot group working under our bankruptcy concessions? Ed and everybody else may have recovered and prospered but we are still waiting.

The loss of our pensions was a devastating blow to a large segment of the pilot group. It really hurts to see the corporation now paying off all its debts and buying back all that stock and paying the huge bonuses to management and buying other airlines all over the world, etc. etc.. There needs to be some acknowledgement of the enormous sacrifice made by the pilots with that pension termination and at least an attempt to give us a chance to make up some of that loss.

Right now the MEC is pretty much keeping a lid on the boiling pot. They're saying there is no reason we shouldn't have a deal "this summer". That has left the impression that things are moving along and management is still negotiating in good faith. I hope that is true, but if its not...

Sometime "this summer" Malone is going to blow the whistle.

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Old 05-05-2016 | 02:16 PM
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Well said Check E!! Tic toc, the clock is winding down!! We have given enough, way more than enough. Sleepy Ed may wish he took more, but if you ask my family he took it all !!!!
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Old 05-06-2016 | 06:07 AM
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Check your email. Informational picketing scheduled, all bases. Be there, be square.
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Old 05-26-2016 | 08:39 AM
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Why do guys NOT wear the orange? Are they against the direction the union wants to go or are they just scared of the company? Any thoughts?
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Old 05-26-2016 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cards5
Why do guys NOT wear the orange? Are they against the direction the union wants to go or are they just scared of the company? Any thoughts?
Bama or FSU fans
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Old 05-26-2016 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cards5
Why do guys NOT wear the orange? Are they against the direction the union wants to go or are they just scared of the company? Any thoughts?
I thinks a lot of guys are truly scared of Delta mgmt. These are the same guys that don't call in sick because they are worried about getting trouble, or refusing a duty day extension.
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