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Old 07-23-2016 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
I don't agree on the "mind boggling" part. Why don't you wait for the entirety of a TA before lighting the torches?
Exactly. Seems to be the same few people trying to make this sound like an easy rejection before we even see the meat of it.
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Old 07-23-2016 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
Exactly. Seems to be the same few people trying to make this sound like an easy rejection before we even see the meat of it.
They are all going to vote no anyway because of one issue.
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Old 07-23-2016 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
They are all going to vote no anyway because of one issue.
QOL? Then I'm a no for one issue.
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Old 07-23-2016 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Vincent Chase
QOL? Then I'm a no for one issue.
Define it.
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Old 07-23-2016 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Define it.
...Right. You don't see all the gives listed in the NN as selling of QOL?
Stop trolling.
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Old 07-23-2016 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by vincent chase
...right. You don't see all the gives listed in the nn as selling of qol?
Stop trolling.
but look at the rates.......the rates......
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Old 07-23-2016 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes
but look at the rates.......the rates......
YES!! Look at that 15.5-3-3-3!!! Astronomical rates!!! It's tough for ALPA to make any dues money on QOL gains...
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Old 07-23-2016 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Define it.
QOL:

My amount of, or ability to get, time off. There should be an improvement in this area.

examples:

Lower TLV
Lower ALV
No +15 for reserves
Higher vacation value per week and additional week
Higher number of weeks available during the summer
Real travel benefits (positive space)
Higher training pay
Increase in ability to manipulate schedule (reserve coverage)

If others want to fly more fine. Removing restriction to pick-up is fine with me. If you need to get out of your own house more, that's your issue. If you want to fly to FAR max, that's your issue.
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Old 07-23-2016 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Viking busdvr
YES!! Look at that 15.5-3-3-3!!! Astronomical rates!!! It's tough for ALPA to make any dues money on QOL gains...
With the exclusion of DC on PS, 1.5% of DC on top of each 10% of PS, 20% would already see a loss of 3%, 30% would see 4.5% loss. Those rates are closer to 12.5%-0%-0%-0%. Factor in management bonus exclusions that have no limits and those rates become negative, and possibly even the 12.5% raise. More like 0%-10%-10%-10%
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Old 07-23-2016 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
QOL:

My amount of, or ability to get, time off. There should be an improvement in this area.

examples:

Lower TLV
Lower ALV
No +15 for reserves
Higher vacation value per week and additional week
Higher number of weeks available during the summer
Real travel benefits (positive space)
Higher training pay
Increase in ability to manipulate schedule (reserve coverage)

If others want to fly more fine. Removing restriction to pick-up is fine with me. If you need to get out of your own house more, that's your issue. If you want to fly to FAR max, that's your issue.
increasing the ADG would be a great way to increase QOL. I fly tons of trips that sit around the credit we currently have (i.e 21 hr 4 days). It'd make it easier to cap out much quicker.

With an AGD of 5:15 you reach 80hrs at 15.25 days of work
With an AGD of 5:45 you reach 80hrs at 13.9 days of work

You can easily get an extra day off with the same pay by raising the ADG without having to work more.
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