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Old 02-15-2017, 02:51 PM   #10881  
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Because that's Delta pilot contract, not Endeavor. Ofcouse Delta has the money to pay you guys the same as Delta pilots, if they were going to pay you the same as Delta pilots, why bother keeping the WO around? They would just bring everything in house. IF you can't do it for what Delta wants to pay, they'll find someone else.
Longevity. When one spends 5-10 years on a crj and then gets hired at mother d , they get to put you on the md-80 at year one pay, not year 10
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No FO is starting out in DTW for the past 8 months, either.

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A week? In DTW? Not right now. Unless it's taking 10-11 months to complete training.
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:17 PM   #10883  
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And herein lies the rub of this industry. Your experience and skills equate to squat.

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Longevity. When one spends 5-10 years on a crj and then gets hired at mother d , they get to put you on the md-80 at year one pay, not year 10
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Old 02-15-2017, 03:32 PM   #10884  
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And herein lies the rub of this industry. Your experience and skills equate to squat.
Year one pay is 85/hr plus profit sharing. Year two over 120. Who cares what year pay you are? A 12 year captain at Endeavor makes the same as a first year MD-80 FO at DL. Id say it is pretty even transition.
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BS. Every single CA I have talked to said they take a pay cut first year at DL, and not just at EDV. Not saying it matters much over time, but first year pay IS lower than most CAs make. Factor in lodging during training and the gap widens even more.

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Year one pay is 85/hr plus profit sharing. Year two over 120. Who cares what year pay you are? A 12 year captain at Endeavor makes the same as a first year MD-80 FO at DL. Id say it is pretty even transition.
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Old 02-15-2017, 05:43 PM   #10886  
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Quality whining. Our rates (including bonus) are among the highest in the industry. If you don't like it, quit and go to DL to fly their 900s or one of their other fine airplanes. If you cant or don't want to, then shut up and enjoy that you are paid more than your peers, have a good contract and are building a resume to allow you to fly at those higher rates at a major.
This comment is poisonous! and in the mean time, if you happen to get stuck at the regionals, let's not raise pay, retirement, sick time, commute priority. News flash Mike Dickta! You're still an AIRLINE Pilot!
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Say what? On the FO side, it takes from a week to 2 months to get off RSV in DTW. Not sure on the CA side, but I know I have flown with newer CAs (less than 6 months) who are no longer on RSV.

10 years may have been the norm back in the old days.
Yup capt 200 plug is 9yr guy.
Takes 9yrs to hold dtw 200 ca.
Even longer to hold 900 dtw ca.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:03 PM   #10888  
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This comment is poisonous! and in the mean time, if you happen to get stuck at the regionals, let's not raise pay, retirement, sick time, commute priority. News flash Mike Dickta! You're still an AIRLINE Pilot!


Yawn. There's a world of difference between what I said in context and what you replied to. Try again.
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Why does some captain keep inputting OOOI times in the logbook? Is that a new thing we have to do now?
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Personal technique only.

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Why does some captain keep inputting OOOI times in the logbook? Is that a new thing we have to do now?
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