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Old 09-21-2015 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Know a guy hired at Compass this February 2015, he's already in upgrade training. 6-7 months for him. Why anyone would still choose Endeavor...
Because someone hired at Compass today isn't going to upgrade in 6-7 months. Plus, you know, there is more than just a quick upgrade to consider.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Know a guy hired at Compass this February 2015, he's already in upgrade training. 6-7 months for him. Why anyone would still choose Endeavor...
There you are... It's been a while. Must've woke up and felt like kicking the dog this morning
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Old 09-21-2015 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver
Because someone hired at Compass today isn't going to upgrade in 6-7 months. Plus, you know, there is more than just a quick upgrade to consider.
Yes, like bases. ATL/MEM. Or a retention bonus of 20k? There's a reason that exists and it isn't out of the goodness of their hearts. With the amount of movement at majors, it would be in ones best interests to join a growing/expanding regional and get the PIC to move on.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Know a guy hired at Compass this February 2015, he's already in upgrade training. 6-7 months for him. Why anyone would still choose Endeavor...
Didn't you and 100's of others come to Pinnacle for the fast upgrade a while back? Those same guys that are now 7-8 year FO's? How'd chasing the upgrade work?
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Old 09-21-2015 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
Didn't you and 100's of others come to Pinnacle for the fast upgrade a while back? Those same guys that are now 7-8 year FO's? How'd chasing the upgrade work?
Oh come on IB if you're gonna call out, then call out honestly. 9E was the place to go for the program schools Gulfstream and jetU. Quick upgrade was nice, but that was not the primary decision factor. In fact by then all the RJs were already on property and 0 growth.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Oh come on IB if you're gonna call out, then call out honestly. 9E was the place to go for the program schools Gulfstream and jetU. Quick upgrade was nice, but that was not the primary decision factor. In fact by then all the RJs were already on property and 0 growth.
Call out what? Honest question. So you are saying you only went there because they are the only ones who would hire you at the time with 300 hours? Fine. But not everyone was in that same situation, they came for the upgrade. Lots of them. And they are still in right seat or made lateral moves.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Or a retention bonus of 20k? There's a reason that exists and it isn't out of the goodness of their hearts.
The money isn't any less usable because it doesn't come from the goodness of Delta's heart.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Yes, like bases. ATL/MEM. Or a retention bonus of 20k? There's a reason that exists and it isn't out of the goodness of their hearts. With the amount of movement at majors, it would be in ones best interests to join a growing/expanding regional and get the PIC to move on.
Assuming you don't already have PIC time. But, if I can't afford to live on first year pay, it doesn't really matter. Some of us don't have mommy and daddy propping us up to live on food stamps.
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Old 09-21-2015 | 08:00 AM
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Well, it was a specific 9E program and they came down and interviewed every month. But you're right many did come for the quick upgrade. Big difference though is 2007 and onwards, upgrade movement was for attrition only and not growth. Difference now is 0 growth at Endaevor and lots of growth at other places. You're right it's always a gamble, but chances are a lot better at places upgrading due to new aircraft and growth versus upgrading due to attrition only (Endeavor).
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Old 09-21-2015 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Well, it was a specific 9E program and they came down and interviewed every month. But you're right many did come for the quick upgrade. Big difference though is 2007 and onwards, upgrade movement was for attrition only and not growth. Difference now is 0 growth at Endaevor and lots of growth at other places. You're right it's always a gamble, but chances are a lot better at places upgrading due to new aircraft and growth versus upgrading due to attrition only (Endeavor).
Where are these places you speak of with lots of growth?
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