Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?

As I've been saying, if you want (are willing to accept) New York, this isn't that bad of an option... if you want DTW or MSP as a captain (ATL is still being felt out as it's currently only a new 200 base)... You will likely get there faster by being hired at another regional then, if needed, an LCC or mainline airline than waiting for a captain seat here in those bases.


As an over 55+ guy, previous 121 PIC time, 9E is appealing to me mainly because of the new base which is driving distance and the fairly quick upgrade. Flow at AA is not really a consideration for me, although PSA base is also a drive away. So it's going to be a toss up between the two, followed by RAH. OTS hire at a legacy or LCC such as WN or F9 would be even better.
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As I've been saying, if you want (are willing to accept) New York, this isn't that bad of an option... if you want DTW or MSP as a captain (ATL is still being felt out as it's currently only a new 200 base)... You will likely get there faster by being hired at another regional then, if needed, an LCC or mainline airline than waiting for a captain seat here in those bases.

Yea I feel the same way. Stop making it easier for top guys to never ever leave. I get things happen in life but no one NO one should be at a regional more then 10 years.
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
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The argument about DTW and MSP stagnation is moot as there really isn't an alternative right now. Skywest at DTW being the exception - for now.
MSP flying has shrunk from mainline through all the regionals. Fact of life.
Makes the argument of living in base vs. commuter less than clear cut. At least commuting gives you some flexibility in these situations.
...or people move to the base with movement. Like what happens at any other job...
MSP flying has shrunk from mainline through all the regionals. Fact of life.
Makes the argument of living in base vs. commuter less than clear cut. At least commuting gives you some flexibility in these situations.
...or people move to the base with movement. Like what happens at any other job...
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,237

Why don't you just tell us is best for you and we will all do our best to accommodate your wishes
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
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The argument about DTW and MSP stagnation is moot as there really isn't an alternative right now. Skywest at DTW being the exception - for now.
MSP flying has shrunk from mainline through all the regionals. Fact of life.
Makes the argument of living in base vs. commuter less than clear cut. At least commuting gives you some flexibility in these situations.
...or people move to the base with movement. Like what happens at any other job...
MSP flying has shrunk from mainline through all the regionals. Fact of life.
Makes the argument of living in base vs. commuter less than clear cut. At least commuting gives you some flexibility in these situations.
...or people move to the base with movement. Like what happens at any other job...
As far as the salary vs rate argument goes, consider this. Turning the bonus into a "salary" is a much larger concession for a much larger portion of our pilot group than the resulting pay cut for a much smaller portion of our pilot group at the 83 hour conversion. This of course doesn't include improvements in sick and vacation accrual, increases in 401K and per diem, as well as QOL improvements like long call reserve that are on the table.
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 480

A lot of us thought it would be a 5 year stay. Sorry theres a lot of people in your way out there. Must be tough.

Been here a little over 7 years so in the same boat but I for sure don't want the union to make it easier for me to become a lifer! And yes my apps are out I'm trying to leave don't get me wrong.
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