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04-30-2017, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
Better yet, let's close New York and send all the junior guys into MSP and DTW at the bottom where they belong. Those guys are commuting anyway. Most in MSP and DTW are not.
If by some chance whatever is left of this pilot group can grow up; get something worked out and move on. Keep the boat afloat a while longer, move on as so many of us have. Don't let a bunch of suckers who refuse to move on kill this airline so they can finally put themselves out of their misery.
Ba dee ba dee, that's all folks. Stay off guard!
04-30-2017, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
It would be foolish not to accept the company's proposal. The majority of the high credit average comes from OE buyouts. This is not a FO vs CA issue, it is a junior vs senior in position issue. If I could bid for 17 days off a month, and all trips with LCA for 120+ credit a month, I would. A reserve pilot who commutes, only gets 11 days off, with 82 credit a month.
And you've been around way too long to even think this.
We are paid by the hour. It needs to be an hourly wage.
If it's not we start working for free at some point.
No way, make em pay, they can afford everything we are asking.
04-30-2017, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JesuitValen
Absolutely. Run it in the ground and sabatage the whole thing. Hope it all works out.
If by some chance whatever is left of this pilot group can grow up; get something worked out and move on. Keep the boat afloat a while longer, move on as so many of us have. Don't let a bunch of suckers who refuse to move on kill this airline so they can finally put themselves out of their misery.
Ba dee ba dee, that's all folks. Stay off guard!
If by some chance whatever is left of this pilot group can grow up; get something worked out and move on. Keep the boat afloat a while longer, move on as so many of us have. Don't let a bunch of suckers who refuse to move on kill this airline so they can finally put themselves out of their misery.
Ba dee ba dee, that's all folks. Stay off guard!
04-30-2017, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
Better yet, let's close New York and send all the junior guys into MSP and DTW at the bottom where they belong. Those guys are commuting anyway. Most in MSP and DTW are not.
Some of us actually like, and dare I say desire, being based in NYC.
The world is bigger than you and DTW.
05-01-2017, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AnotherWriter
I am going to suggest an idea to you.
Some of us actually like, and dare I say desire, being based in NYC.
The world is bigger than you and DTW.
Some of us actually like, and dare I say desire, being based in NYC.
The world is bigger than you and DTW.
05-01-2017, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
No way.
And you've been around way too long to even think this.
We are paid by the hour. It needs to be an hourly wage.
If it's not we start working for free at some point.
No way, make em pay, they can afford everything we are asking.
And you've been around way too long to even think this.
We are paid by the hour. It needs to be an hourly wage.
If it's not we start working for free at some point.
No way, make em pay, they can afford everything we are asking.
I would rather lock in the bonus, which will end soon, then deal with rates in the normal section 6 process. Tie our contract duration to the mainline contract schedule; No more of this 7 years @ 1% crap.
05-01-2017, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
I've been around long enough to know that the company will never accept the union proposal. I'm senior in seat, so the union proposal benefits me, that's why I know it won't fly.
I would rather lock in the bonus, which will end soon, then deal with rates in the normal section 6 process. Tie our contract duration to the mainline contract schedule; No more of this 7 years @ 1% crap.
I would rather lock in the bonus, which will end soon, then deal with rates in the normal section 6 process. Tie our contract duration to the mainline contract schedule; No more of this 7 years @ 1% crap.
I've been around long enough to know it can turn at any time.
05-01-2017, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bartok
Wouldn't you rather fix the rates while supply and demand is on our side?
I've been around long enough to know it can turn at any time.
I've been around long enough to know it can turn at any time.
So by all means, go for the rates, or however else you think you should be paid, but don't kid yourself that locking in pay rates insulates you from economic downturn.
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