Urbandrone

Yes that is correct. Qualified does not mean preferred. There is more to being a passenger caring pilot than being qualified. Customer care is important, personal hygiene, empathy toward coworkers and clients, command structure, plain discipline (wear the hat no one wants to.) Many of these skills are taught in the military and one reason I think military pilots get high acceptance rates at Delta. Every pilot carrying a Delta passenger should be qualified to fly the aircraft. Delta is a looking for a little more out of their pilot, and they pay a little extra too.

Yumyum

An extremely accurate post. Representation or lack there of at the regional level.

4myfamily

I think they even killed a few zombies as well.

jethikoki

EXACTLY!!!
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Some studies have found problems with two-tier systems. Some negative effects which have been found include: Higher turnover among newer, lower-paid employees; a demoralized workforce. Given enough time, a two-tier wage system can permanently lower wages in an entire industry. Lowering productivity expectations for new hires seems to alleviate some of these problems.

You also left out protected and unprotected. When our jobs go away they stay gone like COMAIR. When mainline jobs go away they don't. Even TWA pilots are getting recalls to AA. I want the same interview NWA pilots were given at DAL. Oh but you haven't been through a mainlines interview. NWA pilots did when they went to NWA and its better then any regional. Was it exactly the same as DAL? No but that doesn't matter because they are still a mainline. (It doesn't even matter if you choose to be a SCAB because as long as you are at a mainline you still get better protection then any regional pilot would.)

Why not just get ride of the 2 different interviews and have one for all so mainline pilots can stop their whining about if you had their interview? Then you can really have a claim about protecting your brand. DAL does just about everything else at Endeavor. Why, someone already summed it up previously mainline pilots just don't care. Have to move up to that next equipment for a better paycheck/schedule. Stop NAI that's all that matters. We'll allow you to play in our sand box as long as you never affect our pay and benefits.

WesternSkies

Well...yeah.
Should the complexity and cost of hiring for these companies not be pretty low when your ten year back ground check fully includes flying their pax around without incident.

sflpilot

Delta can hire whoever they want. But don't say that they actually care about customer care when they are perfectly happy to have their customers fly around on the RJ by supposedly substandard pilots. Like 99% of everything else this is really all about money not hygiene, hats and empathy.

gloopy

So DL should pick equally from all regionals "flying their passengers" and I assume Alaska, Horizon, Air France and every other airline too. How about we include interline agreements? Why wouldn't we? So now everyone flies everyone's passengers. Even assuming we locked out all military pilots from legacy etc hiring, we'd probably end up at about the same hiring timeline as we have now.

The entitlement mentality is absolutely toxic, and you can be sure that professional interviewers can spot it a nautical mile away.

If you want a job at a different company, apply and get hired. No one owes you.

gojo

Well speaking of toxic.... you probably should look up toxic personalities. I would wager you didn't sound like this prior to going to Delta? This pompous attitude of we only hire the best of the best and the rest can go to United or American after flying Delta passengers around for many years is what gets people fired up. Seems like years of good service should account for something more that a gaurenteed interview and a kiss my ass if they determine you're not a "good fit". Not sure if entitlement is what you should be hearing here. But many people are just plain closed minded

gloopy

Never said I was the best of the best. I'm not even the best of the fattest part of the middle of the bell curve on a good day

DL does like those who "fly DL passengers" as evidenced by the massive numbers of DCI pilots they've hired both in this cycle and before that.

You say your time at DCI should count for more than an interview, yet many work for years busting their tails and going to job fairs and networking and doing extra "resume" stuff and upgrading as soon as they can and all the other things it sometimes takes. But you are owed not just an interview, but a guaranteed job. And anyone saying differently is "pompous", and yet you claim that's not a sense of entitlement.

That's exactly the attitude I'm talking about. And you can bet they are trained to spot that a mile away. You can try and fool them, and that sometimes works. Or you can recage your entitlement and realize you actually have to work for it, and not everyone will be successful with any given company. That doesn't mean they aren't (really) good pilots or even good people. But HR controls who they hire and if you want the job you have to get it through them, not us.

FYI you do get formal credit for being DCI. Its on the app and it adds points. They'll be able to easily tell in the interview if you've been a good employee (or at least if you haven't been I suppose) and the rest if up to you. JMHO, but I wouldn't tell them that you'll consider a "no thanks" from them the same as a big fat middle finger KMA. Be gracious either way and move on.

You want to know a secret about airline interviews? Its not really about finding the best of the best. Its largely about seeing if the applicant is motivated enough to prepare for it in the first place because that IS an indicator of future success. That's one part of it that really separates the entitled from the humble and motivated. Walking in and thinking "yeah I'm basically owed this because I already paid my dues at DCI" is an easy way not to get it.

Slaveaway

What are upgrade trainees struggling with during sims and OE?